I know Backstop is redecoed. What about the other two? Were these announced by Hasbro before?

Undermine
Wreckloose
Backstop

Oddly, no. Just Backstop has new colors...

I'm gonna have to get that Backstop.

I like the new colors on Backstop.

Interesting that they're all beasts.

Damn, I WISH the other two had new colors. I love both those molds.

I'm also one of the insane people who likes Backstop, and those colors look nice. Might get.

Count me amongst the fold then too.

I'd love for this new color scheme to join Saidos and Cyb Backstop on my shelf!

Call me if they make him Stranglehold or something at least, the mold isn't really good enough to bother with in new colors that are just "okay". Looks like a lost movie 1 Target redeco scout.

Shame they couldn't come up with something for the other two. I don't get what the fixation is with releasing TF Cybertron scouts in multiple venues, unchanged.

Can someone post the pic of Backstop locally for me? They are filtered for me.

They're not in Generations. They don't say "Generations" on them.

About time Backstop got a redeco. Though I'm surprised that he's the only one of these in new colors.

The Backstop repaint looks good.
These are the same molds that were released unchanged for Universe 2.0.
I wonder why Hasbro would recolor only one of them.

Actually, I don't think Wreckloose was one of those, was he?

Hasbro tends to use scouts as exclusives for the smaller stores and Cybertron was the last TF toyline to have decent scouts. Hasbro leaves them unchanged just to save money.

so when they gonna rerelease clocker then?

i could definately use one for a cybertron jurugar custom right now

Yeah, Wreckloose hasn't seen release in a really long time.

Sure wasn't. The Wal-Mart trio were (and remain at some stores, a shame at two bucks a whack) Backstop, Brakedown, and Brushguard. This new wave also has some blue Jungle Planet Cyber Keys, so that's a little different too.

Yeah one of my local WalMarts found a stash of their last release (backstop, brakedown, brushguard in 25th anniversary packaging) and put them on the pegs for 2 bucks a pop.

That Backstop looks nice. I want it.

Odd and disappointing that Undermine and Wreckloose are unchanged, especially the latter.

Backstop looks nice. Much better than the original.

Randy

What... ARE these?

I mean, they aren't gold, so not RTS, but Generations doesn't have Scouts and they don't say "Generations" on them like the Deluxes, so...

Maybe a new Universe-style release for Dollar General and the like, this time with a repaint and a "new" figure?

We just can't get rid of these damn Scouts, can we?!

It would appear to be part of the "Transformers" line started in 2010 after "Hunt for the Decepticons", but with red packaging seen in Generations instead of the normal yellow.

Bullcrap. The Real Gear Robots and the ROTF Scouts were awesome.

I can understand the Scouts if they REDECO them, but just re-releasing them in new packaging? Very odd. Heck, why not redeco one of those as Iguanus and the other as a new Dinobot or something?

I can confirm as previously stated seeing these at a few Walmarts trying to sell for $2 each. I'm surprised they're trying to release them again.

Is Backstop transformed correctly on the package? His legs look sideways. Maybe he's a master of the side-step.

Yeah, If I had to classify them, I'd say that they're still "Transformers" despite being red instead of gold. I mean, I don't think anyone considers the Activators part of Generations just because of their red cards. Same for the four single-pack Mini-Cons (Although their original classification was "Generations" by some sites, I think most fans have backed off of that designation by now).



I actually understand Wreckloose and Undermine far more than Backstop. They're relatively cheap figures that still sell despite being released a bazillion times each. Why invest the time and money to redeco them at all? Family Dollar, Big Lots, and apparently even Walmart will just keep buying them anyway...

These exact releases? In the "Transformers"/"Generations" packaging? Or the ones released in Universe 2.0 packaging that each had their original decoes (including "correctly" colored keys, not the blue ones that the "Generations" ones have)?

If it's the latter instead of the former, I think pretty much everyone knows about those

Since I'm missing all three of those guys (though I do have Repugnus), I do hope they show up in my neck of the woods.

WHAT?

Thanks to these lines I got Undermine.(Who I wanted during Cybertron but could never find him.) I also got Backstomp for $2. I still feel like I got cheated for that one. My brother had Wreakloose, so I know I'm not getting him again. Since Backstomp is repainted, I have a feeling we're going to see these toys for a long time.

so, does this mean we need Undermine (2010), Backstop (2010), and Wreckloose (2010) wiki articles when these come out?

These? AGAIN?!

wreckloose hasn't come out since Cybertron, and Backstop is repainted. so, only Undermine is the same thing repeated.

I think tfw2005 also called the reissue Seacons "Generations" because they had a red box, like these and the Mini-Cons.

I see Backstop and Wreckloose have new blue Jungle Planet Cyberkeys. Did the Cyberkeys in the Universe release have the cyber code numbers on the back, even though the hasbro web site stopped supporting these ages ago?

Backstop's bio certainly seems like a new character. Are the bios for the other two available anywhere?

Wreckloose and Undermine

(Or check out the article on the front page: http://www.allspark.com/content/view/8338/20/ )

Sort of like how they released the blue Cybertron Clocker from Target for the 2007 movie, then they repackaged it for Walmart of "UNiverse Cybertron Series", so then technically it was the Cybertron character, not a movie character. One toy, but two releases in different continuitires? So messed up.

Wow, I have no memory of Wreckloose from Cybertron. Loving Backstops new deco. And Undermine's been one of my favorites for awhile, so I'm happy to see him back.

Oh man. They shoulda given Undermine a classics/PCC Dinobot colorscheme....

I have seven memories of him from Cybertron. Bless you Walmart, for clearancing them out at $1.50 each (rather $3 for a 2-pack, but whatevs).

*Edit* Every time I look at this Backstop, the more I want him. Why do I actually have to like that mold despite its countless flaws!

Yeah, that's how it's supposed to be.


I like Wreckloose's bio.

I just don't get why they keep re-releasing these molds, of all things. The robot modes for Backstop and Undermine are some of the worst in recent memory. Backstop is a squatty side-view of a rhino with extra legs, head and an arm growing out of its ass, and Undermine's robot mode actually has less functional arms and head than his alt mode. How does that even begin to make sense?

Undermine's robot mode is untraditional, but I love it so very very much.

I liked him a lot better once I realized that he basically has the same head as Submarauder's pretender shell. In fact, if they redeco'd him in Submarauder's color scheme, I would snatch that up pretty quick.

Backstop and Undermine are awesome toys. Undermine's redeco Repugnus is even more awesome. Wreckloose, on the other hand.... not so much with the awesome.

Dinoshout is awesome too. I liked him and Undermine so much (as they are very different) I bought both instead of just one (which I wasn't buying two of anything besides Master Megatron during Cybertron).

Randy

Wreckloose's new colors remind me of BW Iguanus (the first one).

Anyone else get that vibe?


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And yes, for those who are wondering -

It's just easier for toy companies to make redecoes or to repackage previously released product whenever the stores want exclusive product.

For example, back in '88 TRU wanted Hasbro to produce some exclusive Joe product for their stores. The end result was the Night Force subset, which consisted of select figures from the previous year's assortment and what "classic" vehicle molds they hadn't yet farmed out to Brazil or India, all of which were redone in black & gray. Thing is, Hasbro's policy of carrying product over for a full release year meant that the original 1987 versions of all those Night Force figures were still shipping to stores. As such, you could have hypothetically had the general release 1987 Falcon figure sitting on the pegs next to his Night Force incarnation.

Given that the auction headings said "TF Club" on them, I'm wondering if these weren't intended as exclusives for general release somewhere. Backstop would, obviously, have to be redecoed as the original decos might still be on the shelves. But the other two haven't seen the light of day in a while. Furthermore, the fact that Backstop's bio has been altered suggests that we might even be looking at a separate character (kinda like how the Target redecoes of the Energon and Cybertron scouts were supposed to be the Movie-verse versions of those characters).

Huh. All three of these are new characters. Which means I can repurpose three toys I really like into some universe I actually give a crap about, so that's nice.

People don't like Wreckloose? Maybe it was just due to how much I missed Beast Wars at the time, but I remember him being awesome.

That's because he is awesome. How can a Komodo dragon wearing a battle helmet with moose antlers not be awesome?

Insanity?

I think I see an odd Transmetal Rinox homage in Backstop's colors. Not sure, though.

That's what I saw, and why I will buy one. Unless it ends up like that sassin'-frassin' Mini-Con 8-pack in Bulgaria or whatever.