I'm not doomsaying. I never said it was going to suck just because they aren't doing it my way. But even if this Kid Flash's name is Bart, he has no physical characteristics to back it up. And probably not the right personality either. Bart in his prime had big brown hair, bright yellow eyes and no desire to be Kid Flash. Especially during his run(get it?) with YJ. He certainly wasn't a smirker/tinkerer. I'll need to watch it with the sound but it looks like he built or at least maintains those goggles for different purposes. What's the point of using Bart's name if you remove everything that made him unique amongst the other sidekicks/proteges?

I could go on, but I won't. Is this what it feels like to be a Geewunner?


I always liked the simplicity of that costume for Conner. Wasn't that the one he adopted after his book got cancelled during his brief Deadpool phase?

http://www.ugo.com/tv/comic-con-2010-young-justice

So, Kid Flash is Wally West, and Robin is Dick Grayson rather than Tim Drake? Huh.

I think this looks outstanding and I'll be watching it when it comes out. Connor's black t-shirt with the red S along with his jeans and boots has been his trademark costume for years! Does it really matter what the show is called? We know who the characters are, I don't think it matters much what it's called as long as the show is good and entertains people. That is a bit confusing regarding Wally and Dick but I guess they're using their own continuity for this so they can do whatever they want.

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I say, that looks rather spiff. "Artemis" made me raise an eyebrow. What's the story there, basically smooshing Arrowette and Artemis into a composite Green Arrow/Wonder Woman protege character? There's seven JLAers and six Young Justicers, and everyone else has a direct counterpart, 'cept those two.

The jeans and T-shirt look happened when he lost his powers. By the time he got his powers back, he ended up keeping the outfit. He also had a big metal S-shield that he could wear on his arm, but he doesn't carry it around anymore (it was the Guardian's idea).

(Trivia: Superboy actually has four different costumes, but we've only seen him wear three; the original "found" leather-jacket over tights, the "upgraded" jacket & tights [a different design, with a tailored jacket], this one, and a modified version of the traditional red and blue that he got from the Legion, but refuses to wear until "he's earned it" [i.e., when Clark retires and Conner becomes the new Superman].)

So it's really a Original Teen Titans (Dick, Wally and sometimes Roy) mixed with Young Justice (Connor) mixed with current Teen Titans (M'gann) along with newbies Aqualad and Artemis? Well, that disappoints me. I was really hoping it would be Young Justice (Bart, Connor and Tim) mixed with current Titans (M'gann) along with newbies Aqualad and Artemis. I'll deal with it, like I always do, but it just threw me a bit off.

Aaaw, I would have liked it to be Bart. And Tim. And Arrowette (no secret identity yet, right? It MIGHT be Cissie!).

I'd much rather have Lagoon Boy (haha) or even Aquagirl Lorena over the new Aqualad.

What's with the dots on Wally's shoulder? It's like he's a robot or something.

The thing I'm not too fond of in Geoff's 'dark S' Connor is it took out the fun out of Karl Kesel's Kon El. Connor's so serious!

I hope Miss Martian stands out more.

Hehehe, I wonder if it will be Red Arrow who dies in the first eps, making way for Artemis?

Oooooh, who are the bad guys?!? Red Hood or a young Harley Quinn, Match or Alexa Luthor like in Legion, Inertia (gawds I hope it's him instead of a Wally villain)?

Only confirmed villain so far is Marina Sirtis as Queen Bee.

Hmm. Y'know, if they're not shying away from death, they could kill off Barry and rotate Wally out of the team. Come to that, the Crisis would make a kick-ass season finale. Bart can show up in season 2.

No idea how to force Dick to leave, though. Nobody died to make him Nightwing. Maybe Dick just stops showing up after a while, and when Robin returns he's. . . "different." The gang figures out why just in time for Jason Todd to die, and Tim shows up in season 3. . .

CBR says that Peter David is writing some episodes now too

Looks watchable, but not as fun as Teen Titans Go!

It does indeed look like a very impressive show. On the behind-the-scenes front I'm buoyed by the presence of Brandon Vietti as the series' producer, and I've also just read that, very appropriately, none other than the great Peter David is actually writing episodes for the series!

six minute preview!

http://io9.com/5692485/watch-the-six+minut...t-supervillains

I like what I see here. Animation looks slick. Lots of cameos. Though what was with the villains. All the cold villains decide it was time for a cold snap?

Yes.

Not impressed so far. I guess they're going for a younger Robin, but I don't like his voice. I'll give it a couple of episodes, but this already looks like it should have been another Teen Titans show.

Seems potentially obnoxious, but worth giving a chance.

Looks awesome to me!

Hey guys, has anyone else considered the Artemis mentioned isn't Wondy Artemis or Arrowette? There is one more that could make things more interesting then Arrowette because she came from the opposite side of parents with Sportsmaster and Tigress.

Looks bad ass. Like the original Justice League show but focused on the sidekicks.

Weisman said there is a reason, that wasn't done by accident. Hey, look at his track record, the guy always has a plan.

Well, yeah, that should be obvious. All the cold-themed villains acting up on the same day? No way that's coincidence.

I'm surprised to see Speedy here. Maybe they've either dropped Artemis, or something's gonna happen to Speedy that'll take him out of the running.

I also can't help but note how much shorter Robin seems to be compared to Speedy (and possibly Kid Flash). Hmm. Maybe Speedy is nearing the end of his sidekick career (and will momentarily become Arsenal or Red Arrow), with Artemis stepping in as the new rookie.

Maybe the Big Day they're all gearing up for is a graduation and induction into the JLA-proper --a graduation that only Speedy actually makes, leaving Robin, Kid Flash and the others eager to prove themselves (making them strike out on their own without their masters).

Has the new Aqualad made his official first appearance in comics yet, or will this be his entrance?

Robin is the youngest, but has been a superhero the longest, according to production.

Looks good, but I'm not a fan of how they're introducing Superboy.

And for the record, I full-on hate the pants-and-T-shirt type of "costume" he has in the poster, and the comics. He needs a real costume!

If I had superpowers, I wouldn't wear a costume. I'd want to be comfortable.

Looking good.

another sneak peak

I just hope it keeps the humour that the comic had.

I'm looking forward to seeing this. Yes Wiseman has stated that this universe is a younger one than what we've seen before, I believe they've called it Earth-16 (yes I know there is already a Earth-16). Bruce Greenwood reprises his role as Batman. Dick Grayson is Robin and Wally West is Kid Flash I believe. The Arrowette/Artemis thing is supposed to be explained and Wonder Girl is slated to appear as well later in the season I believe. What's wrong with the way Superboy is introduced? I loved the time in the "Threeboot" Legion when Connor wore Kal's old Superboy costume when he was trapped there.

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I would have preferred Superboy to have been an already established character like the others, not having Robin et al discover him in the cloning facility


I don't know what that is.

During Geoff Johns Teen Titans run and the Mark Waid version of the Legion of Superheroes now known as the "Threeboot" by Legion fans, Connor found himself sucked into the future while trying to have lunch with Cassie Sandsmark and finds himself recruited by the Legion to fight the Fatal FIVE HUNDRED. Connor has no costume so the Legion (I believe it is Brainy) gives him an old uniform of Kal-El's to wear. It is the only known time other than the alternate future in Titans Tomorrow where Connor has worn the traditional Superman costume.

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That is the only issue with it I have really, of corse I'll still watch it, but it's about time Tim got some face-time due to the impact he's had in the DC universe since, well, his introduction, really...it was fine for the lineup of Teen Titans, but it's really time we moved on from Dick IMHO.

They explained why they used Dick instead of Tim.

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My google-fu is weak, was this in an interview? If they actually have a reason then I will cut 'em some slack, I just wanna see Tim get some screen time.

Because this is a "young DC Universe." Superman has been around for ten years, Batman only nine. This is still "early days." So, you can't really be on the third Robin by that logic.

If the show lasts long enough, we might get Tim Drake.

Ok, now I get it..yeah I read that but I guessed glossed over it with the new Aqualad & Conner being in it..ok, I can deal with that.

Im just waiting for the series to do something silly and make Kyle Rayner a teenage green lantern What did Wally call him in emerlad knights.. Kid Lantern? Lantenr jnr?

Didn't they also say that this was like Earth 16 or something?

Yup. Earth 16. Whatever that means.

it just means they don't have to follow the main comic canon.

Though I thought Earth 16 was already being used for something else.

Earth-16 in the comics is home of the Super-Sons Superman and Batman Jr.


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I must say I was very impressed by the special. Good animation, decent story and characters also both John and Hal on the justice league!

but man this show must have cost a lot to make judging by the animation

This was goddamn delicious.

It was good I like it. I can't picture that Robin as Dick over Tim though.

I just watched it and I was pretty impressed

Finally finished all the Black Friday shows on channels I don't get.


Best animation of the Black Friday shows. It's the only one that doesn't look at all cheap, simple, and/or just plain ugly. Of course DC has had great animation for, what, 17-18 years now? Even when their trying to make it look like a 60's cartoon, it's done well.

Storywise, it's more or less what I feared when Teen Titans started. The not-Justice League, except there's not a Justice League series airing at the same time now. This step up just doesn't work for me when there's no Justice League series for it to interact with. On the other hand, I was really annoyed that the Justice League never showed up in Teen Titans, especially during the Trigon story. This series has them present at least.

Anyways, it's well written and I'll probably watch more, but I think this has to be the one I drop for now. Between Avengers, GI Joe, and my self imposed forced feeding of Prime I doubt I'll be able to keep up with this.

Btw, when did Aqualad become a total badass?

I don't think the Justice League exists in Teen Titans.

Also keep in mind everyone not protected by Raven when Trigon took over was turned to stone.

This is not the same Aqualad - the old one, Arthur's son is now Tempest. He'll be appearing too.
I prefer Dick over Tim. Besides, I hope the series lasts long enough for us to see Dick become Nightwing and Tim to join the team as Robin.
The art style is the same as in Crisis on Two Earths - like it very much. Batman is badass, as always. And good to see Hal AND John both being in the League. Only guy I dislike is J'onn, the new costume... I never have grown to like it.

I loved this show, easily fits the boots JLU left behind, something no DC show so far (The Batman, Brave and the Bold) managed. It's mature, dark, intriguing, and riddled with cameos. The characters are great, and there is a lot of interesting things going on...

Frankly in a lot of ways I feel this could fit into the JLU universe somehow... after all, JLU ended with the establishment of the JL headquarters on earth, which is the (decoy) main HQ here as well. The roster of the JL is pretty similar too, except for Zatara. (Wasn't he dead in the comics for quite some time?)

Love the introduction of Cadmus, the whole Genome project, and how they introduced a pretty small-scale character like Dr. Desmond as a credible threat to the kids. And I am already curious who "The Light" could be - some members, from the sillouettes, seemed to be not even remotely human.

Easily my fav. show of this year, though the new Avengers show comes close... but I'm a DC fan over Marvel, so I am biased...



That irked me as well in the preview, but here you see the League gather to discuss this odd coincidence. I bet "The Light" was behind it. I liked the new look and voice of Mr. Freeze but him being a team player and just freezing innocent bystanders still doesn't sit right with me. Let's face it, no one could write Victor Fries well since Batman TAS...



Indeed, just like Xanatos!

I love his shows, too bad they end up being cancelled just when they get good (Spectacular Spiderman...) My dream would be a TF show written/directed by Greg, with episode writer Paul Dini and animated by Bruce Timm.

considering he was just introduced a couple months ago, I'd say since now.

Garth isn't Aquaman's son. Aquaman had two sons, but both are long since dead.