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DarkDestroyer
Tess kidnaps Lois to find out where she went after she disappeared for weeks. Lois' memory of the future depicts a Metropolis under Zod's rule and Clark powerless under the red sun, while Chloe forms a resistance group with Oliver. After learning of these future events, Clark makes an important decision about Zod.


Youtube has the pretty cool trailer if you wanna check it out. We get the big reveal of Lois's future memory in this one and it's not pretty folks. There's a very cool nod (at least I thought so) to Superman #75 (The Death of Superman issue for those not aware) the cover showing Superman's cape waving in the air. Clark's shirt is seen on a piece of shattered wood waving in the air as the Black Disciple (Nam-Ek?) confronts Lois...also to the mods, I apologize for the early posting of these threads. I still don't have the frakking internet yet at my new place, waiting for my landlord to get a router for the past week and a half since I moved in. So I have no choice to put these threads up earlier and there's supposed to be a big wind storm tomorrow here in Vancouver so I will be staying home.

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---The Rat
Wow such an epic episode, and yet no one saw it?

I gotta say I'm some what disappointed in everyone for that.

Anyway HIGHLIGHT to view:
So as Darkdistoryer said we get to see Lois's memories of the future. Tess has her hooked up to a machine to take a peek at Lois's future memories. A future in which Clark apparently went all nuts after Lois disappeared. He ditches Cloie and Oliver to trained to fight Zod. He lost said fight when Zod activated the solar tower. The tower converts the yellow sun in to red. This causes Clark to lose his power, and the Kadorains to gain powers. Tess at one point jacks her self in to the machine, to get a better idea of what is happening. Lois has a meeting with Zod who takes her ring away to figure out what it is. Tess gets to experience being shot by an arrow from Oliver. She then gets unjacked (she was shot and killed so it couldn't have been fun) She shoots her hacker boy that Chloe teamed up with a few episodes ago, because he refused to wipe out her memories of the future. Then Clark busts in Knocks Tess out, and proceeds to try and unjack Lois. The machine is kryptonite powered, and he accidentally gets jabbed by the probe. Clark then takes a trip in to Lois's memories. Where they hook up, and do the horizontal mombo. Lois, future Cloe, future Oliver, and future Clark. Then come up with a plan to offline the solar tower using the watch tower to plant a virus. A plan that succeeds but only after Cloe gets killed by the assassin who later follows Lois back in time. Zod is then seen dragging Clark down a street telling him how much easier it would have been if Clark would have just joined them. The yellow sun comes back Clark fights Zod, but ends up being stabbed by Zod who used a Kryptonite blade. Clark takes the league ring back from Zod, throws him off and pulls out the blade. Lois gets to Clark just in time to see him dieing. He puts the ring on her finger just as the assassin dives for the ring and they are zapped back to the present. The doctor whose been helping our hero's this season(I forget his name) Unjacks Clark, and wipes Lois's future memories. Clark however has them. He makes an important choice, since fighting Zod in the future causes the whole world to go to hell. Clark decides to try a different approach this time around. He decides to make friends with Zod instead. The last scene has Zod organizing a mission to get the solar tower up and running. Clark comes in dressed in his Blurr outfit, and wants to talk to Zod. Zod then has all of his troops kneel before Kal-El

It was a damn good episode. The only downside I can see is that like Supernatural, Smallville is going in to its mid season break. The preview for after the break shows some pretty kickass stuff. Check it out over on the CW streaming site
DarkDestroyer
I watched it and enjoyed it as well...my favorite of the season so far. There were a few flaws in the episode that I didn't like....like why Zod didn't find and use the Fortress of Solitude as his base of operations, or why the Metropolis rebels led by Chloe and Ollie didn't go and recruit Lana...obviously the off screen reason being Kristen Kruek probably wasn't available or wanted on the show but you would have thought that having a Kryptonite powered Woman around would have been useful for their cause. Also they're still referring to Kryptonite as meteor rocks even though a scene prior they just called it Kryptonite. I liked the way that they matched up all of Lois's visions, made them work during the revelations. Also Alia's (Kandorian ninja assassin chick) thing with Clark was explained but not her caress of his cheek from the premiere implying a deeper connection with him. A great episode, I really did geek out during the whole thing. Right from the start with the homage to Superman #75 as they showed Clark's blur shirt flapping in the wind (just like Superman's cape after he was killed by Doomsday).

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---The Rat
My guess for plausible reasons for Zod to not use the fortress was A he didn't know about it or B He destroyed it. Clark said he trained himself to fight Zod, and the only place that could have been done was the fortress. Clark then said Zod came back with everything he had a Clark. So I'd be willing to bet the everything he had was destroying the fortress. So far as Lana is concerned...yea the writers just plain forgot about her.
NXPromethius
This was a really great episode although i was really hoping we would see future Clark fly, I mean he was a way for training and i assume that training would include learning to fly.
DarkDestroyer
Actually what I was really hoping we'd see was a homage to Superman II. When Zod drags Clark on the ground and is about to kill him for good, I would have liked to have seen Zod instruct Clark to kneel before Zod and then Clark get up and grab Zod's hand and crush it "No one will kneel before you ever again Zod".

The Fortress thing just bugs me...it could have also been a solution to reversing the solar towers instead of an elaborate sequence showing the rebels send a virus through the watchtower. Clark could have mentioned that Jor-El has technology in the Fortress that could reverse the effects of the solar tower and restore the sun back to a yellow one. Also I'm not expert on astrophysics, but wouldn't a red sun have some kind of negative effects on the human population? Especially for a year...or at least a few months? I'm sure that thing hadn't been activiated for a full year. A Red Dwarf on Krypton created a denser gravity I thikn on Krypton.

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Galenraff
I've not really commented on anything this season because it seems like for all the kind of neat moments they have (mostly between Lois and Clark), they miss a lot of great opportunities by going out of their way to NOT make Clark be Superman. That was getting old 5 years ago, and it's just ridiculous now.

This episode was decent enough, I suppose. But it really felt like "storytelling by numbers" since they told us 9 episodes ago we'd be seeing this. Now they had to make all the little flashes and glimpses make sense. Instead of using the time to tell a more compelling real story, they painted themselves into the corner and got to the point where they were obliged to do this episode, and it felt like an obligation more than a real interesting thing to do.

The JSA preview interests me the same as the Legion did last year. But at this point, he just needs to actually be Superman. We're seeing the story treading water the same way the Lana and Lex stories did in their last several seasons - how many times can we really reverse Oliver's personality, or the Lois and Clark relationship, or whether Clark and Chloe are getting along, or whether Tess is helping or dangerous, etc. before those get run into the ground too? (Answer: not many...we've already done a few of these too many times.)

The ideas are there, the world is there, the style, and the ability to do these great stories is all there, but they cripple themselves too often with the silly rules about "not being Superman," or by killing a genuinely great Jimmy Olson, or ignoring all the other heroes that they go out of their way to introduce, or any number of other things.

So I'm still watching, still interested, but still thinking this show is missing the point more than hitting it, and this episode to me really just highlighted that.
DarkDestroyer
galenraff this has been opinion on the series progression for the last six seasons...you have managed to state it much more elegantly though than moi.

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Galenraff
QUOTE(DarkDestroyer @ Dec 4 2009, 09:43 AM) *
galenraff this has been opinion on the series progression for the last six seasons...you have managed to state it much more elegantly though than moi.

Dark Destroyer

I've also held this opinion for quite a while. I've had probably 4 or 5 seasons to refine and perfect the phrasing. icon-hotrod.gif
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