So, would you pay club prices to get a remold of Universe Ultra Silverbolt as Thunderwing?

I really, really dislike that mold. Buying it once is enough.

I've avoided every release of that mold so far, and an expensive exclusive wouldn't be any more appealing.

I like the simplicity and blockiness of that mold, but, considering I have three of 'em...might be a stretch. Anyway, I don't really feel that he works so great as Thunderwing, probably because I personally associate that character more with the shell than the inner robot. Heck, if you went with the US comics alone, I don't think there was an indication that he even *was* a Pretender but just a robot/jet dude with an ornate design (I know that the inner robot appeared in the UK comics.).

While I rather like the mold as Silverbolt himself, he's so, well, Silverbolt-y looking that every redeco of him I've seen just looks like Silverbolt after the rest of the Aerialbots played a paint prank on him. So... no. Even the new head in the prose story art doesn't help much.

He tells Bumblebee that he is a pretender like him but that he knows whatever damage is done to the shell is felt by the owner.
It was the VsQs issue.


Darkwind looks very much like G1 Darkwing. Its easy to see him as a seperate character from Silverbolt and not just Silverbolt in Decepticon colors.


As for the topic. No but then I can't afford any exclusive or Botcon figure. I do have Silverbolt and Darkwind though so thats enough for me. I would however wouldn't mind seeing a SG Thunderwing toy being produced because the guy really needs a new toy. Bludgeon and Nightbeat have been given new toys in recent time so so should Thunderwing.

He calls himself a Pretender, but we don't see his inner robot in the US issues.

No. The toy is pretty bleh, and at Club prices it would not be worth it at all.

I quite like the design in the artwork, but I don't feel the need to own a toy of it. I'm sick of the mold at this point.

I do find it .... interesting that not only is SG Thunderwing in "real" Thunderwing colors, but that he also has red eyes.

Very interesting.

...hmm, are there SG Decepticons other than him and Heatwave that have red eyes? Several have yellow ones, and Whisper has orange ones in his profile pic, but...

Some SG characters do have their original counterparts colors. Megatron, Demolishor, Jazz, Alpha Trion...

Would it be an honest SG variation on a character thought to have a Pretender who is the design of his G1 shell instead of changing color? For instance could SG Gunrunner be a red armored car?

Yeah, Darkwind could only get closer looking to Darkwing if they'd given him a visor. I still think he's been the best use of the mold. Skyfall, however does look like "Silverbolt in Decepticon colors" as I really can't see him as Skyjack in anyway, as he feels too diffrent espically compared to Fearswoop, who does a much better job of feeling like his Cyberjet counterpart.

Some fan project company needs to make an add on for Darkwind. Maybe G1 style weapons, a Powermaster that fits on the chest, and a visor.... maybe a simple link to make him dock with Dreadwind easily.

Yeah, but even though SG Megatron has G1 Megatronish body colors, he still has "heroic" blue eyes.

Demolisher is based on an existing toy.

SG Jazz has blue eyes instead of red as well, because he's clearly supposed to also work as a Classics Jazz if you really want.

So, uh. That last example may be important.

I take it you mean as a Thunderwing toy released that could fit info the Classics or SG toy line?
Since we already have duel purposed club toys that's a possibility. (Airazor, Astrotrain, etc). Only way to do it better would be to put 2 tech specs in the box, one for each purpose. I'd said a long while back to do this with a SG Wheeljack. Make it both SG Wheeljack AND Classic Slicer.

If they're going to do Thunderwing, I'd either like to see a dedicated Universe mold based on Stormbringer, or, as with Bludgeon, a movie-style approximation.

The Silverbolt mold is ok, but I've not been fond enough of it to buy either of the two Decepticon repaints. And anyway, it doesn't really look spacecraft-like enough to be Thunderwing.

I always wanted a Thunderwing toy made from the Ultra sized Energon Megatron mold, ah well.

Yes. I'm saying that SG Thunderwing has G1 colors and evil red eyes for the purpose of FP being able to sell him both as a Classics Thunderwing and SG Thunderwing.

yes i would, the silverbolt mold is awesome (all complaints against are retarded, it is an amazing mold that can be transformed in a flash, which is awesome)

I always liked it too, as I like boxy G1 style, but it add major articulation to G1 boxy. It's a great combo. Heck, it's biggest flaws as Silverbolt are the lacking of combiner feature, and perhaps being a bit oversized as a robot. As Thunderwing those flaws disappear. I want my Thunderwing BIG (his original toy was too small) and I don't want a combiner.

I voted "Not Sure."

I don't hate the mold, a bit simple but a good Silverbolt and a decent Darkwing. Thing is it's been used Twice already to good effect and then once (Skyfall) to very weak affect (IMO). So it's got a bit of a "Been there, Done that" aura to it now.

What it comes down to, as usual, is simply how cool it looks. I like Thunderwing the character, but on the other hand I LOVE Nightbeat the character and I had no interest in that toy because it totally fails to capture him IMO. If A Thunderwing looked cool and looked like Thunderwing I'm there. If it looks like a random repaint in Thunderwing colors (ie Club Nightbeat) then I'd pass.

T-wing's shell has a lot of curves, an organic look to it. I really don't feel that the Silverbolt mold would capture that, even with the (likely) new head. I love the mold, but it's all angles.

That said, if the head was sculpted well and the deco appealed enough, I could see picking it up anyway. It's not ideal, but honestly, there aren't a lot of molds that would work, and I don't see Hasbro in any hurry to make a new one for him.

It's sort of a Razorclaw-style acceptance-through-lack-of-options, but I can live with that.

I'd probably do it. I just wouldn't have him as SG Thunderwing.

Of course, it's unlikely he'll get a toy...right?

I don't see the point of repainting anything and calling it Thunderwing. Like Bludgeon, Thunderwing is primarily associated with the appearance of his shell, and that thing is far too unique to be approximated by way of repaint. In other words, I'd only buy this character with a dedicated mold.

Well we still don't know who 2010's Big Toy is.

except Wheeljack would have an autobot symbol.

Most of us overlook "Massacre Racing" on Jazz.

Just sayin'

And the symbol would be less annoying due to the invention of reprolabel.

I dunnow.

I'd rather have SG Wheeljack over Slicer.

It must hurt to be so wrong.

Anyways, I kind of feel like Darkwing was the perfect redeco of the mold. I don't need to see it again.

mold has been used to often and to close together already.

count my 'probably not' vote as a firm NO

I had to pick "not sure."

I loves me some Thunderwing but cash is tight.

So it would depend on if the toy was great enough for me to be wiling to fork out a large portion of my entertainment money on it (ie, sacrifice the ability to buy many other toys).

I would've liked the pink Elita-One, but not enough to pass on four exclusive My Little Ponies plus Classics Cyclonus in order to afford her.

I can't really decide either.

The mold isn't a particularly good Transformer. It's a good robot, and an acceptable jet, but getting from one to the other isn't quick and easy, it's just barely there, and the two modes hardly have anything to do with one another.

I don't hate it though, and it does make an awesome Darkwing, and I love Thunderwing almost as much. I think the design does kinda sorta work as Thunderwing too, even if would be a very angular version of him.

Ultimately though, if we ever got a true Classics Thunderwing, and I'd bought this, I'd be pissed off. But it's a pretty safe bet that if Hasbro did OK this, one isn't coming anytime soon, and I'd be rejoining the club to get Punch/Counterpunch anyway, and combined shipping would make that an easier pill to swallow.

I'd vastly, VASTLY prefer either Toxitron or RID Prime as Hot Spot/Defensor though.

I sure would, as I think with the new head it works great. And this is coming from the guy who has Universe Silverbolt, White Universe Silverbolt, Darkwind, and Skyjack.

Randy

You can put one symbol on him, and have the other a sticker that you place on top.

I like the mold well enough, but I have two of it, and that's really enough. The only reason I bought Dreadwind is because I had Darkwind. Or vice-versa. I get the two confused.

That said, I'd buy it, anyway. I'm kind of a sucker for club exclusives.

I'm really wanting this now. Fun Publications, make it so!

Randy

Until some better option comes along, I'd really love to have it, and we REALLY need a Thunderwing. Silverbolt is a neutral looking mold that they could imprint the character on, and is appropriately large for an important character, though I'd like him to have a bit more of the organic curves that Thunderwing's design is known for.

The smaller Energon Megatron mold really needs to be used for a nicely painted, reasonably sized Galvatron before anything else, though I can see it working for Thunderwing. Too bad the tank accessory sucks, Fun Pub has already used the mold with a new head, and the colors on Energon Megatron were already sort of close to Thunderwing.

If the toy is made, and it's technically Shattered Glass, it better be easy to cover any of that up to use it for Classics.

Personally I think the best solution for making these kind of figures either Shattered Glass or Classics, would be to leave the figure blank and include a set of symbol stickers in both colours, for whichever universe you want them in, to apply yourself.

You could also not apply either and use it in both that way too.

In a word: No.

In a full: NOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


The mold is overlarge and over priced as is, adding club prices would be plain obscene. I have yet to buy a single club (or botcon one) due to the prohibitively high costs involved.

As for choosing that mold for Thunderwing, it just doesn't suit him. Thunderwing is a massive armored warrior really, and the Silverbolt mold just too lanky to give that look. Even with a new head, the proportions wouldn't work in my opinion. I'm holding out for another new mold Classics style one based off Don's one from Stormbringer. Brute mode and all.

Silverbolt is meant to bridge the gap between Thunderwing's Pretender shell and inner robot, and it does it quite well.

Take a look at Silverbolt's vehicle mode, nice and curvy. Not as curvy as Thunderwing's shell, but it does hint towards it. Now the robot mode, very blocky. Compare that to the inner robot from Thunderwing, who is also very blocky (and bland). So I think it actually does a great job in pulling off that Thunderwing feel, you just have to look past the Pretender shell.

I think it would work better were it to homage the inner robot. That said, I could see it as Whisper.

Again, the Energon Megatron mold seems closest to the Stormbringer incarnation.

I just like it because if you take the plane off his back you get two toys for the price of one.

Although it looks bad on the surface, if you count the first three categories together as positive, you have as many people who would buy Thunderwing as not...

Just saw the pic of Thunderwing.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Thunderwing_%28SG%29

Looks good. I'd like to see that happen as a toy someday.

Not a mold I'd care to buy again at regular prices (evil black repaint fan that I am, I still don't have either recolor, and don't plan to get them), so I'd pass at Club prices.

He needs a brand-new mold.

But I'd take a Leader class Energon Galvatron redeco with a new head too.

No. I didn't buy either of the other redecos of Silverbolt, and they made much better versions of their respective characters than Thunderwing would. (Darkwing was great.)

The problem with Thunderwing as an exclusive is that you can basically use Energon or Cybertron Megatron as stand-ins for him without really needing to redeco them. And if you did redeco them, they'd still be so close to the original there would be an 'ehh, who cares' factor. (kind of like with BotCon Dezaras. I mean, I have him, but still...)

Why redeco the smaller Energon megatron mold as galvatron? that's already been done.

I like the ideas of making SG characters and including decal sheets for 'normal' and 'evil' (or 'good') versions of the characters. One, it brings back an element of fun and playability that has been abandoned since G2, and that's actually applying decals to the toys. I'm sure Reprolabels would be glad to be involved in something like that. And two, it increases the appeal of exclusives. If you have one mold that could work equally well as two characters, why not actually sell it as BOTH?

Not very well, if the reviews are anything to go by. And I've never seen one for sale, so price/availability is a question regardless of quality.


Been sayin' this for months now. I think FunPub could double their market by focusing on the SG guys who can actually pass as non-SG characters. Hook those who like SG and those who don't care in one shot. Heck, there would likely be a few increased sales from people who buy two sets so they can have both.