News Team
Oct 13 2009, 11:50 PM
http://www.allspark.com/content/view/6184/20/The season of small, semi-useless teaser pictures has begun once again!
Mawile
Oct 14 2009, 12:18 AM
I'm glad that for once a "screaming" face actually looks how it's supposed to.
Omega-Tron
Oct 14 2009, 12:18 AM
Headshot is cool...makes me want more pics though.
Powered Convoy
Oct 14 2009, 08:21 AM
Yes I need to see more, Botcon was just the preamble. They did say at Botcon his mouth would move, and he'd speak - just what he would say was not deteremined yet.
Randy
NightViper
Oct 14 2009, 08:23 AM
Robogeek1973
Oct 14 2009, 08:26 AM
Now this looks like an instant buy from me, it's much too awesome to pass up!

edit:NightVipered.
Fullstrength Motleypuss
Oct 14 2009, 08:42 AM
QUOTE(NightViper @ Oct 14 2009, 09:23 AM)

Head and shoulders
Now we just need feet and toes.
Esser-Z
Oct 14 2009, 08:52 AM
Awesome.
Robogeek1973
Oct 14 2009, 09:26 AM
Esser-Z
Oct 14 2009, 09:27 AM
He looks great.
Robogeek1973
Oct 14 2009, 09:35 AM
I assume it's ok to put those up because others were posted as well, if not someone let me know and I'll remove them.
mx-01 archon
Oct 14 2009, 09:45 AM
Bought, bought, bought, bought, bought.
Between this and Leader Prime, damn, those engineers at Takara better have gotten huge bonuses. I can't believe how accurate they've managed to get the toys to the onscreen models. It's like, physical impossibility made reality.
Wingus
Oct 14 2009, 09:47 AM
Does look nice. Wish he was Blackout, though.
Nevermore
Oct 14 2009, 09:50 AM
I longer how long until Hasbro has these pics taken down.

They seem to be photographed of a screen. Is this a Hasbro/Takara video conference? Did someone hack into the stream? Or what?
racerx
Oct 14 2009, 09:55 AM
Yes, please!
I'd like a shot of his alt-mode, though.
MightyMegs
Oct 14 2009, 09:56 AM
I just looked at my leader class Megatron, and burst into tears.
Magnus
Oct 14 2009, 10:01 AM
Wow, that's pretty sick. Definitely bought.
Robogeek1973
Oct 14 2009, 10:03 AM
QUOTE(racerx @ Oct 14 2009, 02:55 PM)

Yes, please!
I'd like a shot of his alt-mode, though.
Yeah, while not a deal breaker for me I REALLY hope Screamer's jet mode is better than Jetfire's is!
mx-01 archon
Oct 14 2009, 10:06 AM
QUOTE(Nevermore @ Oct 14 2009, 07:50 AM)

I longer how long until Hasbro has these pics taken down.

They seem to be photographed of a screen. Is this a Hasbro/Takara video conference? Did someone hack into the stream? Or what?
People are saying that it's from one of the special features on the RotF BluRay, so it should be on the up and up.
As for the jet mode, people at BotCon said it looked pretty clean, so take that as you will.
Blot
Oct 14 2009, 10:07 AM
QUOTE(MightyMegs @ Oct 14 2009, 07:56 AM)

I just looked at my leader class Megatron, and burst into tears.
Why? Someone has to be there to grind their tread feet into his chest...
Robogeek1973
Oct 14 2009, 10:12 AM
QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Oct 14 2009, 03:06 PM)

As for the jet mode, people at BotCon said it looked pretty clean, so take that as you will.
Fantastic!
mx-01 archon
Oct 14 2009, 10:18 AM
QUOTE(Blot @ Oct 14 2009, 08:07 AM)

QUOTE(MightyMegs @ Oct 14 2009, 07:56 AM)

I just looked at my leader class Megatron, and burst into tears.
Why? Someone has to be there to grind their tread feet into his chest...
Besides, Megatron suffers the same design change problems as most of the Movie 1 figures. Leader Megs is ridiculously accurate to the original design sketches for him. Just that further down the road, they added the tank shell and wings, and beefed up his left arm a bit.
Even then, the toy is quite accurate, minus the arms, in robot mode.
Mawile
Oct 14 2009, 10:29 AM
So, you push the cockpit down to open the mouth?
Rosicrucian
Oct 14 2009, 10:37 AM
Yeah, I'm still very pleased with RotF Leader Megatron, possibly due to the fact that he is not Movie Leader Megatron.
Moroboshi Ataru
Oct 14 2009, 10:45 AM
Wow, really awesome how they made this guy and Prime more slender and dangerous-looking this time around...this is utilizing the added design freedom/budget of the Leader price point to its full extent. Makes me glad that I resisted the Voyager Starscream (Which is no longer available here, anyway.), as much as the upcoming Buster Prime makes me glad for waiting on the first ROTF Leader Optimus.
Blot
Oct 14 2009, 10:54 AM
QUOTE(Rosicrucian @ Oct 14 2009, 08:37 AM)

Yeah, I'm still very pleased with RotF Leader Megatron, possibly due to the fact that he is not Movie Leader Megatron.
Could be worse. He could be movie
Voyager Megatron.
Powered Convoy
Oct 14 2009, 11:11 AM
QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Oct 14 2009, 10:45 AM)

Between this and Leader Prime, damn, those engineers at Takara better have gotten huge bonuses. I can't believe how accurate they've managed to get the toys to the onscreen models. It's like, physical impossibility made reality.
Agreed they are working some great voo-doo magic!
Randy
Daggor
Oct 14 2009, 12:22 PM
That is a very nice looking figure.
Octavius Prime
Oct 14 2009, 02:12 PM
Looks like his torso is flexible. Huh.
Probably a transformation joint. Still should make him look a little more fluid.
I like the molded Decepticon sigil.
In reference to the scale sheet, it looks like we finally have some more Soundwave concept art. I can't tell if this robot mode is based off of the truck or the satellite. I'm guessing that, based on the lack of big panels, it's truck Soundwave.
mx-01 archon
Oct 14 2009, 03:04 PM
QUOTE(Octoberus Prime @ Oct 14 2009, 12:12 PM)

Looks like his torso is flexible. Huh.
Probably a transformation joint. Still should make him look a little more fluid.
Yeah, I noticed that. I love those sorts of shoulder joints. Allows for a lot of poses with personality. Transmetal 2 Scourge was awesome as a result.
Smitty
Oct 14 2009, 03:27 PM
It looks like his gauntlets open up to have the guns come out. I'm tempted...
mx-01 archon
Oct 14 2009, 03:38 PM
Yeah, he's supposed to have the flip-out rocket launcher and gatling from the movies.
CatSCAN PhD
Oct 14 2009, 04:05 PM
I'm just really pumped about how beefed up/strong/powerful the legs look instead of the usual spindle-y-ness. The pop out arm launchers are pretty amazing though, too.
If only they could have done up The Fallen and Blackout while they were at it...and maybe Demolisher...and a Voyager Bonecrusher (I still want this!)
It's just awesome what the higher price points can do for these film designs. ROTF Prime, Leader Brawl, and this Starscream especially.
mx-01 archon
Oct 14 2009, 04:48 PM
Yeah, the spindly, stumpy, wideset legs on the Voyager really throw off the toy's looks. I really like how accurate it generally is, but the legs just mess the whole thing up. As a result, I don't like the toy as much as I would have otherwise.
Dake
Oct 14 2009, 05:00 PM
I really need to see F-22 mode. I want a clean alt-mode. Please, please, please...
mx-01 archon
Oct 14 2009, 05:05 PM
I'd imagine around as clean as the Voyager, but probably managing to stow his claws at least.
Robogeek1973
Oct 14 2009, 05:38 PM
QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Oct 14 2009, 09:48 PM)

Yeah, the spindly, stumpy, wideset legs on the Voyager really throw off the toy's looks. I really like how accurate it generally is, but the legs just mess the whole thing up. As a result, I don't like the toy as much as I would have otherwise.
I agree about the legs, they're what stopped me from buying him originally. Well, that and the fact his torso just looks WAY bigger than it needs to be. The Leader version's torso just looks a lot better to me and he doesn't look nearly as fat as the Voyagers do, at least in my eyes.
mx-01 archon
Oct 14 2009, 05:44 PM
I think if the Voyager had bulkier, more proportional legs, it would help the torso look better, too. The Movie 1 Starscream mold worked out pretty well on that front. It was the jet mode that killed that one (and to a lesser extent, the gun-arms).
Robogeek1973
Oct 14 2009, 05:49 PM
QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Oct 14 2009, 10:44 PM)

I think if the Voyager had bulkier, more proportional legs, it would help the torso look better, too. The Movie 1 Starscream mold worked out pretty well on that front. It was the jet mode that killed that one (and to a lesser extent, the gun-arms).
Yeah I agree, while the jet mode sucked terribly the bot mode(minus those "hands") was really nice.
Treadshot 2.0
Oct 14 2009, 11:57 PM
That's extremely bought.
Omega-Tron
Oct 15 2009, 02:47 AM
Cool, now the new pics make me want more pics.
Yeah, I'm hard to please.
Octavius Prime
Oct 15 2009, 06:10 AM
Didn't see anyone mention it (although it's on the front page), but what's the story on "The Plague"? Or, "The Plaque" if you go to TFW.
The outline is pretty clearly a Robot Protoform, but the notes mention "no alt mode, combined robot." Is the Protoform shadow just a placeholder for something that never materialized? Or are we to assume that the Plague is the Protoform army from the end of the movie and they can combine in some way (that we never see)?
Also, I was glad to see that Ransack's toy is in fact in scale with many of the other Decepticons like Fallen and Soundwave.
Bass X0
Oct 15 2009, 07:23 AM
I'll be waiting for a repaint. I already have ROTF Voyager Starscream. Even at a leader class size, if he's in the exact same color scheme as a toy I already own, I would feel underwhelmed. But a Thundercracker repaint would do me just fine.
Smitty
Oct 15 2009, 07:33 AM
QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Oct 15 2009, 07:23 AM)

I'll be waiting for a repaint. I already have ROTF Voyager Starscream. Even at a leader class size, if he's in the exact same color scheme as a toy I already own, I would feel underwhelmed. But a Thundercracker repaint would do me just fine.
Don't count on a repaint. Last movie only two leaders got a repaint Prime and Brawl. I'm sure Prime wil get one this time also and I think Jetfire will be the other for the combining thing...
Octavius Prime
Oct 15 2009, 08:09 AM
QUOTE(Smitty @ Oct 15 2009, 08:33 AM)

QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Oct 15 2009, 07:23 AM)

I'll be waiting for a repaint. I already have ROTF Voyager Starscream. Even at a leader class size, if he's in the exact same color scheme as a toy I already own, I would feel underwhelmed. But a Thundercracker repaint would do me just fine.
Don't count on a repaint. Last movie only two leaders got a repaint Prime and Brawl. I'm sure Prime wil get one this time also and I think Jetfire will be the other for the combining thing...
Bass - I'm hoping he'll be in silver, like the Deep Space exclusive from Target is. I won't care if he has the tattoos or not, but I won't like it if he's the same muddy cement color of the ROTF Voyager mold. Also, If it does get repainted into another Seeker, I'm putting my money on Skywarp. He very frequently gets priority over Thundercracker. Another Possibility if Starscream's G1 colors.
And Smitty, don't forget that this toy probably won't be released until early fall of next year. That means that ROTF is supposed to go from late May 2009 to at least Fall 2010 - and don't be surprised if there will be some SSpring 2011 releases, either, which would allow for space for another Leader repaint. And anyway, each of the three leader molds from the 2007 Movie line got repainted at least once (Prime did twice), so if ROTF is a longer line, why can't that mean that its additional leader mold also get a repaint?
Powered Convoy
Oct 15 2009, 09:46 AM
QUOTE(Smitty @ Oct 15 2009, 08:33 AM)

QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Oct 15 2009, 07:23 AM)

I'll be waiting for a repaint. I already have ROTF Voyager Starscream. Even at a leader class size, if he's in the exact same color scheme as a toy I already own, I would feel underwhelmed. But a Thundercracker repaint would do me just fine.
Don't count on a repaint. Last movie only two leaders got a repaint Prime and Brawl. I'm sure Prime wil get one this time also and I think Jetfire will be the other for the combining thing...
Prime got Nightwatch & Premium - both of which were different in USA & Japan
Brawl had Desert
Megatron had Premium
I'm tending to think at least 2 of the 4 Leader figures will get recolored.
Randy
Nighthawk.
Oct 15 2009, 09:49 AM
there is only one ththt will stop me getting this , the awesomeness of the vehicle form apart from that defenite buy
Spark
Oct 15 2009, 10:30 AM
I wonder how much of this prototype's features will make it to the final toy, considering what Prime lost.
theEvergreen
Oct 15 2009, 10:42 AM
QUOTE(Spark @ Oct 15 2009, 11:30 AM)

I wonder how much of this prototype's features will make it to the final toy, considering what Prime lost.
...what DID he lose?
Blot
Oct 15 2009, 10:43 AM
Prime's tires were meant to collapse "thinner", his step would have unfolded to be more flush in robot mode, and he appeared to have articulated fingers.
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