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Quantumhawk
The AUTOBOTS are decimated by the DECEPTICON invasion, but still must rally to prevent the ALLSPARK from falling into their clutches.
Big Show
Wow. I really expected the Dinobots to save the 'Bots. I have to say, I like that they didn't have to-it gives our boys an air of respectability going forward.
SCTransformer1
Holy smokes. This episode was great! Enough said.
son of unicron
hot damn, that was an action filled episode

some things i assumed would happen ( like sumdac being alive, i mean.. its a kids show.. )

and some things i didnt expect ( like the allspark being destroyed.. )

sumdac tried to tell sari something, im sure that will be an interesting episode down the line

and now, like in g1.. the autobots have half their ship sticking out of the side of a mountain XD

awesome.
Deathy G1
Decepticons! Transform and rise up! As I said in the other thread, finally an equivalent!

Methinks Sari isn't human.

Very happy Megatron is alive at the end, and now hes going to enslave Sumdac.

Hmm the Autobot ship is stuck in the side of a mountain, seems familiar somehow...
Smitty
How lomg until season 2? icon-op.gif
Terrorpin
Mr jive, Meet Mr. Fan.

Wow. icon-bee.gif The more I see of this series, the more I absolutely love it. Also: Human characters proving their worth FTW!
SlaggingSlug
1 week.
Onyx
"You rebuilt Megatron in your lab?!?!"

One thing I didnt like was the way BA and Saris little team up ended, BA wasnt even giving a chance to go back to Elita-1.

Nice battles all around, Bulkhead besting Lugnuts Punch, Bee causeing Blitzwing to crash, Prime DESTROYING the Allspark! BA wont be happy about that, now she's stuck in her organic form.

Sumdac got his chair back! :lol
Rust
"Decepticons! Transform and Rise Up!"

...I approve.


All in all, the knock down, drag out fight people have been clamoring for. And once again, an example of why the Decepticons of this series aren't like any other. Just in that few minutes of fighting look at how much property damage Detroit suffered.

Megatron dealt with Starscream quickly and efficiently. Definitely not G1 there.


So Optimus dispersed the energies of the Allspark (Who wants to bet now we'll be seeing Sumdac creations gaining Sparks of their own?) and the Key has become it's analog, not exactly the ending people were hoping for but at least the Key is a lot smaller and unobtrusive to guard.


I did enjoy how Blitzwing and Lugnut were beaten. Not with sheer muscle, but with smarts. I like that.


I also got a good bark of laughter after seeing what the Allspark explosion did to the Autobot ship. But along those lines...didn't they crash on Dinobot Island? If so, it makes their absence all the more disappointing. I was kinda hoping for a Dinobots vs Lugnut fight myself.
Thylacine2000

The way the Autobots were handled in this episode was truly brilliant. We got a red herring waved about last time--the Dinobots would ride in like the Rohirrim and save the day--but no such luck. And my fears of a deus-ex-machina lucky arrival of the Cybertron Guard didn't come true either. Instead, the Autobots had to hold their own. And they did so very cleverly: just as physically outclassed as always, they had to basically trick the Decepticons into defeating themselves.

Note how they took pains to note the Allspark is NOT destroyed, only "dispersed". I would not be surprised to see some energy-collection plot threads appear in future episodes.

I assume everyone caught Megatron's morbid joke about his hand being Sumdac's old chair.

So what would Isaac be telling Sari? That she's adopted? Wouldn't it be really awful of a parent to have not revealed that by age 8? Plus it's been part of the publicly-revealed series background, for the audience to know, since before the show began. I suspect something else....
ZacWilliam1
Good episode. Good set-up for future eps. as I assume that the "dispersed," as OP put it, Allspark power is going to be what ends up animating a lot of the new characters in upcomming eps.

I WAS slightly let down though, only because I really hoped that they'd somehow bring the ship to life (or activate it if it was already) and we'd get Omega Supreme. I still think that may happen down the line but I was kind of hoping it'd be today.

It IS interesting to me that for the first time ever we're really seeing the slow formation of a Optimus/Megatron antagonism. With each fight the animosity between these two build for the next time.

Esser-Z
Yeah, I was thinking that was Dinobot Island. The Dinos will be back, I'm sure, so we can see them fight the 'cons later.

That was good. Did not expect the dispersion of the Allspark. Wow. Also, the Ark bursting out of the lake was pretty awesome.

Also, poor Sumdac.
Daith
I'm hard pressed to say I liked the conclusion that much. It was good, but less than what I expected. No dinobots, especially when it looked like they crashed on the island. No rumored Omega. Half the fights were kinda meh. But you can tell theres more to come. Sumdac's secret to Sari. Sumdac still in Megatrons hands. The Allspark dispersed making the key power item number 1 again. This really didn't feel like a season finale which is why they are probably moving on to the next few episodes.
Esser-Z
It's too early in the series for Omega, I'd say.

I really did like the means the Autobots used on the 'cons.
Solarstorm
If the Allspark Key can be used for such a powerful attack, perhaps Sari can be useful on the battlefield.

It is amusing that the bots/cons keep punching with the key. Cybertronian Street Fighting. Though you're supposed to use 3 key!

Megatron wasn't as intimidating as I thought he would be. He started strong, I seriously thought he was going to impale Prowl (figure he'd be repaired when the key was returned). I like how the first bot he really went for was Prowl. Megatron kicked a lot of ass. Then he flew around and was inconsequential until the end.

I'm sure it was the animation, but the three jets paled as a threat during the chase. That shot of the three side by side and firing was used like 3-4 times. Though some of that was redeemed when they took down the Autobot ship.

The final fight was iffy. Prowl, BB, and Ratchet were hilarious fighting Blitzwing. They confirmed our theories about BW's personalities and his alt modes and called BB on his obnoxiousness. But the defeat of BW was a little quick. Quick doesn't have to mean bad though. Bulkhead's intelligent defeat of Lugnut was great.

Megatron having the Allspark in his chest was a major OMG moment. Sumdac proved himself/kinda redeemed himself at the end. I like that the bots called him on the Megatron stuff. Bulkhead looked like he was ready to hit Sumdac during that conversation. The shattering of the allspark was also great. Though I'm getting a nasty Inuyasha vibe. Sari detecting "Allspark energy" and Megatron trying to outwit them at every turn.

The last line was a killer. "Are you comfortable IN YOUR CHAIR"
Daith
It seems the Allspark was trying to tell Sari she's special somehow with the DNA chain. Is she human, Android built by sumdac, or just adopted.
I want to know.
Paladin
I'm very thankful that the Autobots we've seen for an entire season weren't rescued at the last minute by super-powered backup at the last second.
Rust
QUOTE(Thylacine2000 @ Apr 5 2008, 10:07 AM) *
So what would Isaac be telling Sari? That she's adopted? Wouldn't it be really awful of a parent to have not revealed that by age 8? Plus it's been part of the publicly-revealed series background, for the audience to know, since before the show began. I suspect something else....


Given what Sumdac was going to tell Sari and the fact the Allspark showed Sari a strand of DNA in response to her question of why it picked her...


I'm going to venture a guess that Sari is a clone of Issac Sumdac. Completely biological, but given she turned out female with red hair I'm guessing Sumdac used nanites to "randomize" her attributes while still an embryo.

In effect, she's a Human Robot.
Robogeek1973
Fantastic episode, even without the inclusion of the Dinobots. icon-screamer.gif


I really enjoyed the fact the bots had to use their brains to defeat the cons, very nicely done. Also, seeing Megatron hand the bots their butts was fun to watch, how long until the toy comes out again? icon-fire.gif

Poor Sumdac, he looked so scared and uncomfortable in his favorite "chair".
Solarstorm
The dinobots were in the last ep.

Blackarachnia showed up and took Sari. She showed signs of possible redemption before. Could have turned and helped Prime.

The ship was in Play.

Bumblebee mentioned the Elite Guard (a good time for them to show up and save the day).

But none were used. Misdirection galore. And it worked bigtime.

These bots don't get big saves like that. They are learning to be heros. The only way they can win is by their own effort and growth.
It really works for this show.

Also, looks like Bulkhead finally picked up Prowl's lesson about evaluating the situation. He knocked that one out perfectly.
Rust
QUOTE(Robogeek1973 @ Apr 5 2008, 10:22 AM) *
Poor Sumdac, he looked so scared and uncomfortable in his favorite "chair".


Well he did take a cattle prod to Megatron's ankle.
Solarstorm
QUOTE(GC Rust @ Apr 5 2008, 11:24 AM) *
QUOTE(Robogeek1973 @ Apr 5 2008, 10:22 AM) *
Poor Sumdac, he looked so scared and uncomfortable in his favorite "chair".


Well he did take a cattle prod to Megatron's ankle.


Yeah, Megatron's going to keep a close eye on Sumdac now. He's not so clueless after all. McGuyvering a handy tool like that in such a short time. He apparently know a lot more about Megatron's body than we thought.
Robogeek1973
QUOTE(GC Rust @ Apr 5 2008, 03:18 PM) *
QUOTE(Thylacine2000 @ Apr 5 2008, 10:07 AM) *
So what would Isaac be telling Sari? That she's adopted? Wouldn't it be really awful of a parent to have not revealed that by age 8? Plus it's been part of the publicly-revealed series background, for the audience to know, since before the show began. I suspect something else....


Given what Sumdac was going to tell Sari and the fact the Allspark showed Sari a strand of DNA in response to her question of why it picked her...


I'm going to venture a guess that Sari is a clone of Issac Sumdac. Completely biological, but given she turned out female with red hair I'm guessing Sumdac used nanites to "randomize" her attributes while still an embryo.

In effect, she's a Human Robot.


Now THAT'S an interesting theory. Certainly a better one than she's a robot, hopefully we'll know soon.
Suspsy
Good episode overall, but I was sorely disappointed by the lack of Dinobots.
Sideswipe80
Do Prime and Meg have re-match? How was it?
Razorsaw
QUOTE(Suspsy @ Apr 5 2008, 03:28 PM) *
Good episode overall, but I was sorely disappointed by the lack of Dinobots.


That would have made it way too easy and much less satisfying, IMHO.
fangwing
Well, the Ark has now crashed ON DINOBOT ISLAND, so I wager we'll be seeing more of them soon. Also, it's crashed into the side of a dormant volcano! G1 fansquee indeed.

Optimus Prime on lollerskates made me very, very happy, as did Megatron's kickass transformation animation. Blitzwing getting fooled twice by the same ruse was giggle-worthy, and now Megatron has Sumdac captured. That's baaaad mojo coming up there.


And the Allspark has dissipated, hmm? Scattered its lifegiving energies all over Detroit, hmmmm? I wonder what that could POSSIBLY mean!
Sideswipe80
How was Prime vs. Megs? Do we get a sense of rivalry?
Rust
That's growing, slowly.

At this point Megatron outclassed basically everyone.


Though I do like how Prime uses his Battle Mask sparingly this season. It makes when he activates it to fight Megatron all the more intense.
Cybersnark
Did anybody else notice that the Allspark "charades" involved both a DNA helix and what appeared to be a spark?

Man, I don't want Sari to be a robot, but it's starting to look likely.

And I loved Ratchet's little snipe about Sumdac's rebuilding Megatron making Ratchet not feel so bad about losing the Key.
Razorsaw
QUOTE(Cybersnark @ Apr 5 2008, 04:08 PM) *
Did anybody else notice that the Allspark "charades" involved both a DNA helix and what appeared to be a spark?

Man, I don't want Sari to be a robot, but it's starting to look likely.

And I loved Ratchet's little snipe about Sumdac's rebuilding Megatron making Ratchet not feel so bad about losing the Key.


I'd say the fact that it showed DNA and Blackarachnia causing Sari to "age" shows she's not necessarily a robot.

Her being SOMETHING inhuman is very possible, but the evidence is stacked against her being a machine.
Rust
QUOTE(Cybersnark @ Apr 5 2008, 11:08 AM) *
Man, I don't want Sari to be a robot, but it's starting to look likely.


I don't see her being a true Robot (Dumping that on a kid about to die would be far more cruel then just letting them die in ignorance), but I do see her development being aided by robotics to the point Sari might be the "Missing Link" between Organic and Technological life.
Sso02V
QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Apr 5 2008, 12:10 PM) *
I'd say the fact that it showed DNA and Blackarachnia causing Sari to "age" shows she's not necessarily a robot.

Her being SOMETHING inhuman is very possible, but the evidence is stacked against her being a machine.


Forget aging, there's a new weapon in the war against the "Sari is a robot" troops. She got sick in "Nature Calls".
Powered Convoy
It was a good episode. Not as good as the last but still good. I would have preferred this to be a 3 parter instead of two, as it seemed a little rushed. The animation wasn't as good either, besides a few parts here and there (like transformation sequences).

I really wanted to see Megatron nail someone with his fusion cannon. I don't remember if he actually hit anyone with a blast from it.

Randy
RedWolf
QUOTE(Sso02V @ Apr 6 2008, 12:17 AM) *
QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Apr 5 2008, 12:10 PM) *
I'd say the fact that it showed DNA and Blackarachnia causing Sari to "age" shows she's not necessarily a robot.

Her being SOMETHING inhuman is very possible, but the evidence is stacked against her being a machine.


Forget aging, there's a new weapon in the war against the "Sari is a robot" troops. She got sick in "Nature Calls".


More like an enhanced human. Likely nanotechnology as in the premiere.

An analog would be Gundam 00's HRL super soldiers are enhanced human children with nanotech.

Also artificial humans that can interface with a Quantum computer.

Sari is not an android per se but she could be an artificially made human.

I have a sinking feeling that Sari may not need the Key at all.
tec
Deceptaicons transform and rise up!
Razorsaw
QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Apr 5 2008, 04:18 PM) *
It was a good episode. Not as good as the last but still good. I would have preferred this to be a 3 parter instead of two, as it seemed a little rushed. The animation wasn't as good either, besides a few parts here and there (like transformation sequences).

I really wanted to see Megatron nail someone with his fusion cannon. I don't remember if he actually hit anyone with a blast from it.

Randy


The detail slipped a bit, but I thought the animation was really dynamic and conveyed a nice sense of action.
Sideswipe80
Just saw it. I was impressed with the way Prime handle things. Despite being outclassed by Megs he beats him again by knocking him out of the ship, ha. I like their rivalry.
Xaaron
Hey, now that the Allspark energy is dispersed, maybe Sari is now the key to finding it all again. Sure, maybe her hair will glow in the presence of Allspark energy, and she'll start kicking Bulkhead in the leg more often, and...

Guys? What are you doing with that blowtorch? GUYS?!
Bass X0
would have worked better if both parts had been shown in one day. i don't feel like this episode had enough strength to be shown on its own.
Kevin S
QUOTE(GC Rust @ Apr 5 2008, 12:11 PM) *
QUOTE(Cybersnark @ Apr 5 2008, 11:08 AM) *
Man, I don't want Sari to be a robot, but it's starting to look likely.


I don't see her being a true Robot (Dumping that on a kid about to die would be far more cruel then just letting them die in ignorance), but I do see her development being aided by robotics to the point Sari might be the "Missing Link" between Organic and Technological life.


I kinda think she might be like Savage Noble of Beast Machines... 100% organic, but with a bonus spark inside. (Or at least spark-like energies in her DNA.) However, does this make Megatron the baby daddy, or the mommy? (I'm assuming the spark energy had to come from part of him.)

Also, does anybody but me wonder what the key did to Starscream? The key fixes Transformers, which I very much doubt was Megatron's intention. It looked like Megatron was just trying to sucker punch Starscream, but the key added an extra effect.

Now, I doubt they'll give Screamer a Rampage-like mutant spark from here on in, but it is possible. Since Starscream is going to be on his own, without anyone on his side, the ability to self-repair could be an excuse to keep him in the game.

Kevin
Solarstorm
To further that theory, check the design on Megatron's spark chamber.

It looks almost exactly like the spark torture device Megs used on Rampage in BW.

Wouldn't it be great if Megs took a fragment of Screamer's spark to keep him in line from here on out?
RedWolf
QUOTE(Xaaron @ Apr 6 2008, 12:49 AM) *
Guys? What are you doing with that blowtorch? GUYS?!


Art

Who says that Art didn't slag anybody.
Sideswipe80
This Megs is better than the G1, Unicron Trilogy, IDW version, and BW/BM version in my book.
TricityismyPika
Awesome episode.

Except for the fact that the Allspark was destroyed and now Sari's key is now more important cuz it's like a mini allspark.

Ya know...Optimus needed to lighten up, and when he finally did, i wuz very proud.

I still can't believe that Optimus didn't trust Sari with the key at first, kinda big point when she says that the Allspark chose her for a reason, but he still didn't get it till the end of part 2.

Optimus has definatly been alot wiser and had alot more street smarts in the other series'.....

Why did they have to make Optimus soo clueless and then make the Decepticons so badass that they soud smarter and they look cooler than the Autobots. Are the TRYING to make the Autobots look bad?!?!?

confusion.......

Megatron's definatly alot smarter in TF animated.

Smart Megatron + Clueless Optimus Prime = Score 1 for Decepticons 0 for the Autobots....
Powered Convoy
Leader Class Megatron needs to be in my hands now. So he can smash all the Animated Autobots around (but that would require me owning them as well).

Randy
autoWHAT
You guys are nuts.

The allspark shows Sari her DNA and this PROVES SHE'S A ROBOT?

Well, yeah, I know only robots have DNA, but I'm still not getting it.

And anyway, my problem with most of the guesses is that they don't really have so much of an implication of anything interesting they could do later. My own suspicion is that she's a human who was brought to life by the Allspark and has a spark. Or something.

Also, the allspark's dispersal is... interesting. It explains all the future episode synopsis's that have transformers being brought to life by the allspark.
Cuad
I completely enjoy Bulkhead's opening seconds "I hate small talk." And then getting his ass beat. But he didn't hesitate to take it to Megatron. Damn, Bulkhead is kicking ass.
Meh, that allspark ending was overkill.
Chris_Lv255
Sari is probably an enhanced human.

Soul is Spark
Spark is Soul

Lugnut shouldn't have put a physical trigger for his explosive punch, that was his downfall.
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