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15 Jan 2013
Hey. Just saw this on the Wiki. And I just wanted to take a second to point out we actually kinda know what we are doing from time to time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-op.gif)
Specifically, the second note:
"Though labelled an epilogue to A Flash Forward, it has zero to do with that story, instead picking up from the prologue to that year's BotCon comic, "Invasion", and following up on the multiversal fallout of that story."
In the directory section on Page 2 it does in fact specifically call this out as the Invasion Epilogue. However, it was also meant to serve as an Epilogue AND a Prologue to "A Flash Forward"/"BWSG" respectively.
In panel 1 we see the events from the last page of "A Flash Forward" as observed by Rhinox and the Transtech. Then, we see two members of "The Convoy" on page 2 locate Depthcharge and we get some obvious foreshadowing for our next story.
Point is this Epilogue was intended primarily as a 2 page transition story. Where we shift from 3 years of Wings Universe to 2 years of the "NEW" Shattered Glass Universe, all done through the eyes of the Transtech and their new emissaries, The Convoy. So, long story short, the epilogue did have more than "zero" to do with AFF and was all carefully planned out to tie everything together...
3 Feb 2011
The way it is presented, after watching the scene several times (geek, I know) it is an alternate timeline in that the timeline itself has been altered. Not that this spock and Nero are not FROM that exact timeline. All the other parts of the movie reference the fact that their lives have been changed and will not be what they would have been and so on.
But every character who speaks on the subject (which is mostly Young Spock and the others on the bridge while he goes on) is speculating about how things might work. The only one who has ANY actual knowledge on the matter is Old Spock - who doesn't speak at length about it, and when he does speak he tells at least one bald-faced lie. [And, of course, even he's hardly Q.]
And again, if this is the standard being used, then it has to be applied to Voyage Home, First Contact and so on. Yet it isn't. So what changed?
They were round trips. ST09 is an open loop - Old Spock and the Narada's crew never return to whence they came. [Besides, if we're not looking at authorial intent... stuff like the ridiculously large number of shuttles & size of crew the Kelvin had doesn't make the case strongly that this was the actual past of Old Spock rather than a more subtle Mirror Universe-type "always different" reality]
At the end of the movie, Old Spock viewed Young Spock as himself, not as a Doppelganger.
Round Trips do not matter. There are crew members from First Contact who never made the trip back because they died. Old Spock will also die in the past. So, again, irrelevant.
There are all kinds of ways to try and 'make' the alternate reality idea fit. And Bob and Alex saying so just to appease the fans did not help. But if you go by the rules established within Trek canon, the fact is that the primary Trek timeline was changed. And while there very well may be a timeline where events continued unaltered, the "Prime" timeline is not the primary timeline.
I again am going by established canon, not author intent.
6 Jan 2011
So, I use the TFwiki for just about all my research, but I needed to check the main Wikipedia site for their description on Shattered Glass and much to my surprise the Timelines page was deleted. I tried to muddle through the discussion, but if anyone can help get this back up it would be greatly appreciated.
From what I read, the person responsible for the deletion seems to know very little about business and seems to think Timelines only appeals to TF fans (though I am not sure how that is relevant?) but we in fact actively market to all pop culture fans through our releases to Asylum, BSC and so on. Our product has been featured in Tomarts We have an annual comic on the newsstands and appear on ICv2's Top 300 comics page. Furthermore, Shattered Glass as you know has become a pop culture staple...
Anyways, again, not sure why they would delete a licensed and Hasbro recognized property.
12 Nov 2010
The TCC's 2011 Membership Drive Club Store sale comes to an end on Friday (Nov. 12th). As a special promotion, we are offering up for sale advanced copies of Transformers Timelines 5: Generation 2 Redux. This retail BotCon edition features an all-new cover and exclusive character profiles.
So check out the store sale, pick up Timelines Issue 5 and take advantage of some great store savings!
The Timelines Issue 5 comic book can be ordered now at our Club Store
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