G1 Characters that could have been Beast Wars TF's Options

[windsweeper]

Was just reading a mosaic featuring Bombshell and a poster said he could imaging Bombshell with Tarantulus' evil laugh. Not the first time I've seen a comparison between the two.

So I was wondering are there any other seeming unrelated characters that could possibly be the same character?

Personally, I've long believed it wouldn't take much imagination to link Robotmasters Wingstun and BW Waspinator. Both have shared a mold. Both have similar colour schemes. Both have served under BW Megatron. Wingstun has little if any fiction or characteriastion so he's pretty much a blank state. I can almost hear him say, "Why Universe hate Wingstun?"

Terrorsaur and G1 Thrust are another pairing. Both are cowardly braggards with similar color schemes. In fact, Titanium WW Thrust really strikes me as making a nice pre-Beast toy for Terrorsaur.

So what do you guys think?

[MonsterFromMars]

Okay, I can see that. They also didn't need to do it in order to make certain principles the show was trying to tackle clear. They could have very easily had done that with new characters.


I just don't know if the other two vehicon generals being who they were was useless though.

I mean I felt beast Machines was drawing from buddhism quite a bit. It got into attachments. Megatron was basically playing a poor mans Von Doom and using Budhism from a twisted perspective.

Seriously the whole show was about letting go of attachment. And about tragedies, and not trying to control things. Both Primal and Meg's seemed to be like a confrontation of Buddha and Mara in a Yin Yang sort of way.


Anyways, I don't know if it was irellevant. Thrust being Waspinator kind of did show the contradictions about love that kind of showed how Megatron was trying to get the Maximals to see his point of view. I mean because Thrust was the brooding loner. It was all too easy for Blackarachnia to see him as Silverbolt. She couldn't see Jetstorm as Silverbolt. Because the loud obnoxious game host character comes off as insecure and self absorbed. Narcisstic.

I mean seriously, it makes a good point about how people are choosy upon who they love and who they wouldn't. And, how would you react if that douchebag you hate the guts out of for being a self absorbed loud mouthed jerk was really your noble knight in shining armor beau.


Sure I can see the writing flaw. But beast machines works as a visual essay type thing with how individuals are petty and biased.


I really felt Megatron was trying to show the Maximals that anyone could become like him. He was also trying to show them their bias. I mean seriously Megatron pretty much was a self absorbed egotistical jerk. And everyone in his ranks except for the sycophants hated his guts. I really felt he was trying to pull one on the Maximal's to see how being hated by everyone feels like. Seriously. Everything he did was in a manner a way to get them to understand that from his perspective. Everyone hated him basically for who he was. And he was proud and loved who he was. In essence he was trying to get them to see from his perspective he was just as much as a victim as anyone else. He was trying to show them how incompatible individuals would feel if they were alien narcissists. Also, it was a way to get them to understand why he would kill the whole population. From his perspective he's incompatible from the collective and alienated. He dosen't fit in. And no one wanted to do things as he said despite the fact that he did have the right level of intellect to achieve certain things. Everything that happens makes sense from this perspective. It's the villain playing devils advocate, and pointing out that in part he's evil because society rejects him.


I mean really how many times did Meg's try to get the maximals allegiance in the first season of beast Wars. He actually did. Although through forceful coercion. And thats my point, Megatron has trouble seeing that he's a badguy. The rejections, humiliations and defeats look different from his perspective. And honestly, it kind of explains the whole evil and self absorbed thing.

And seriously everything was about alien narcissism and co-dependency.


Really, I mean I kind of get how Rhinox could have become that way even without spark tampering. He basically became a narcissist/sociopath. Because he developed a sense of seperation anxiety from the collective. He felt violated and abandoned and no longer could relate or empthasized with anyone but himself.


How hard is it to argue that Megs was pointing the maximal's biases towards people who are suposedly evil?


He was practically pointing out that people who are sociopaths or alien narcissists aren't always born that way. They can also be victims of abuse. And really would you really see things in black and white so much. If someone you loved or cared about. Got traumatized enough to no longer be able to have feelings or empathy for other individuals?

It's a matter of how the world isn't limited to one perspective. I don't think the point could be made as easily if it wasn't with characters we didn't already care about.

This post has been edited by MonsterFromMars: Apr 22 2012, 07:13 PM

[Naas]

I don't think the point could be made as easily if it wasn't with characters we didn't already care about.

Um, confusing multiple negatives here. It soundsl ike you're saying "it could not be made as easily if it was not with characters we did not care about". As in "it was not have been easy because we did not already care about those characters". Did you mean say that last sentence with one less negative? (i.e, "it could not have been made as easily if it wasn't with characters we did already care about")