Episode 35, Grill Options

[LBD "Nytetrayn"]

It was about as good as a clip show was ever gonna get.

The only parts that really bugged me were the commercial stingers trying to create some sort of tense "cligghanger".

"I have no choice but to call a tribunal to have you dishonorably discharged."

*Gasp!*

*commercial*

"What were we talking about three and a half minutes ago? I can't remember. Anyway, go on about the Autobots..."

Or

"I have no choice but to have you undergo a complete psychiatric evaluation, as your sanity is clearly in question."

*Gasp!*

*commercial*

"Anyway, about those new toys...?"


If anything, the episode reminded me how much I liked to see Ratchet fight. I hope we get more of that somewhere down the line, this season.

Really? I loved the second one; when I saw the preview, I was trying to figure out how he could so openly and readily accept two warring factions from another planet who transform into all manner of machinery, yet question the presence of Unicron...

...and then it comes back, and the officer says he heard Fowler state Megatron fought a unicorn... well, I thought it was funny.

--LBD "Nytetrayn"

[Tm_Silverclaw]

...and then it comes back, and the officer says he heard Fowler state Megatron fought a unicorn... well, I thought it was funny.

--LBD "Nytetrayn"

Yeah the whole "Fought a magical horse!" "Huh!?" Thing was great... Especially when Fowler mentioned Mystical properties and relized how that sounded.

[Kevin S]

Great, now I want somebody to draw a MLP that uses TF Prime Unicron as a inspiration. Then have Unicron the unicorn, the cuteness bringer.

[Cybersnark]

The segment on the kids was hilarious.

"So, they know how to take orders?"
*cut to Jack at KO Burger*

I was just wondering when the battery was finally going to give out on the camera.

Seriously - why not make sure that the battery was fully-charged first?

I KNOW! That was the longest-lasting battery ever.

They could've just plugged it in; most betacams have AC adaptors, and I'm sure a general would have a free outlet in his office.

Originally no, but after some thought, I did get an idea. Maybe a POV episode from Laserbeak'a perspective. And it turns out, he sees everything in old school vector graphics. Maybe with only 2 colors.

...Turns out he's not a very good spy.

[Gunrage]

Glad to see the reaction over here on the episode was generally positive. Over on TFW, people are acting like this is the worst thing that has ever happened to them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-primal.gif)

I rather enjoyed the episode, even for a clip show. It had some nice background information. I still love Fowler's "...Seriously?"

This post has been edited by Gunrage: Apr 18 2012, 08:30 AM

[CORVUS]

Great, now I want somebody to draw a MLP that uses TF Prime Unicron as a inspiration. Then have Unicron the unicorn, the cuteness bringer.

That could warp space and time.

[CORVUS]

Great, now I want somebody to draw a MLP that uses TF Prime Unicron as a inspiration. Then have Unicron the unicorn, the cuteness bringer.

That could warp space and time.

Glad to see the reaction over here on the episode was generally positive. Over on TFW, people are acting like this is the worst thing that has ever happened to them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-primal.gif)

I rather enjoyed the episode, even for a clip show. It had some nice background information. I still love Fowler's "...Seriously?"

They act that way about everything. They should change the board name to TFW-Histrionics.

And yeah, Fowler was great. But then Ernie Hudson is always great. They could turn this into the "Ratchet and Fowler show" and I'd be pleased as punch *lol*

This post has been edited by ^0^CORVUS^o^: Apr 18 2012, 08:50 AM

[Fortress Ironhol...]

And yeah, Fowler was great. But then Ernie Hudson is always great. They could turn this into the "Ratchet and Fowler show" and I'd be pleased as punch *lol*

Actually, I know how that could work.

It'd be the Christmas special. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-trant.gif)

Each year, the hospital June works at does a special gathering in which the poor kids (12 and under) from across the area can come in, get check-ups and vaccinations, and get a backpack full of random items (like school supplies, clothes, and toys).

Unfortunately, due to the economy, they don't have the money to hire an actual Santa or get a proper sled.

Cue Fowler & Ratchet getting drafted.

Throw MECH into the mix, and you've got yourself a plot.

[Pony of Merak]

that actually sounds kinda cool.

[Tm_Silverclaw]

FI... can you go -one- thread without needlessly fanficing or Info dumping?

[Fortress Ironhol...]

that actually sounds kinda cool.

If Prime *is* going to be an ongoing, then it only makes sense for us to get a holiday episode eventually.

As a case in point, look at Renegades (which had a Christmas two-parter even though it was only going to get one season) and Dan Vs. (Thanksgiving and Christmas episodes).

The only question is just which holiday we're going to get.

What's more, since the series is going to air in Japan, the writers would also have to take into consideration what Western holidays are celebrated over there.

That leaves New Year's, Valentine's Day, Halloween, and Christmas.

[BB Shockwave]

I thought clip shows died out in the nineties or so... At least in western animation. This was about as enjoyable as that Star Trek TNG episode where Riker gets stung by some insect and relives some Season 1 stuff...

But hey, at least the writers seems to be reading the message boards, they did explain why Fowler has only one set of clothes and how he is able to fly a jet in them without blacking out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-arcee.gif) And hey, Silas' real name is Bishop. Guess military agents with that name tend to go rogue...

What I was more surprised about though, was how despite weeks or months passing by since season 1, Fowler has not reported yet to his superiors about , you know.. Unicron being at the center of the Earth. He probably has proof, too... the US is constantly monitored by sattelites, and the city-sized rocklords would be hard to miss on the records. (The unicorn jokes are getting old, though. It felt forced enough when Miko made it last time. Plus, you know... I did it first. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-fire.gif) )

And the general seemed oddly unphased about learning that Fowler "brought in" civilians for help.

Great, now I want somebody to draw a MLP that uses TF Prime Unicron as a inspiration. Then have Unicron the unicorn, the cuteness bringer.

He/She'd be pony made of rock?

I felt those things alone were worth watching for. I also liked the fact that despite Starscream is a bit of a running gag this season, Fowler mentioned him being a genius tactician but his own worse enemy. Sounds about right.

Soooo true. I sometimes start to feel sorry for him, then realize that it's his own darn fault he lands in these situations... even when he's winning, he has to stop and gloat or enrage his enemies and give them the strenght to overcome him. He just can't learn when to keep his mouth shut...


This post has been edited by BB Shockwave: Apr 19 2012, 04:18 AM

[CORVUS]

I thought clip shows died out in the nineties or so... At least in western animation. This was about as enjoyable as that Star Trek TNG episode where Riker gets stung by some insect and relives some Season 1 stuff...

You actually compared "Grill" to "Shades of Gray"?

-25 resepct points. Bad form, sir.

[Kevin S]

Great, now I want somebody to draw a MLP that uses TF Prime Unicron as a inspiration. Then have Unicron the unicorn, the cuteness bringer.

He/She'd be pony made of rock?

A rock to wind a string around.

Throw the crib door wide.

But yeah, he/she (I don't care which) would be made out of rock. But in the cartoons, that never stopped the Rock Lords, so why can't we have a horse made of stone?

Unicron Rocks!

Kevin
Man, don't you burn the foreheads down.

[Fortress Ironhol...]

What I was more surprised about though, was how despite weeks or months passing by since season 1, Fowler has not reported yet to his superiors about , you know.. Unicron being at the center of the Earth. He probably has proof, too... the US is constantly monitored by sattelites, and the city-sized rocklords would be hard to miss on the records. (The unicorn jokes are getting old, though. It felt forced enough when Miko made it last time. Plus, you know... I did it first. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-fire.gif) )

90% of Season 1 took place within a mere two months' time (the season finale made reference to this), and so I would imagine not that much time has transpired here.

Furthermore, whether intentional or not, the writers have made it clear that the world of the series is (perhaps drastically) different from the real world. So we really can't take anything for granted right now.

[BB Shockwave]

Ok, I am curious now... how and where did the writers made that so clear that this USA is... not like the real USA? As in, military and secret service operating on a "we'll just task a single guy to handle all dealings with alien robot deathmachines and have him report to us once a month" basis?

No matter how you look at it, it is quite silly, compared to the tone of the series. It was fine in Animated where everyone was unphased by the Autobots, due to A: the tone of the series and B: that it was set in the future where humans are well-accustomed to robots. Here the military just... seems not to care much about the whole Giant Robot Civil War. Or how a Decepticon Warship is constantly in orbit of Earth. I'd consider that a BIG military risk. I wonder why Fowler doesn't ever call his superiors the million times the Bots were able to locate the ship, and simply ask Ratchet to ground-bridge a nuke aboard of it.

I thought clip shows died out in the nineties or so... At least in western animation. This was about as enjoyable as that Star Trek TNG episode where Riker gets stung by some insect and relives some Season 1 stuff...

You actually compared "Grill" to "Shades of Gray"?

-25 resepct points. Bad form, sir.

I would have felt bad comparing it to a BWII episode where Artemis and Moon do a rifftrack of various episodes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-hotrod.gif) Even I have to admit it was better than that.

But yeah, it was not an enjoyable episode. I can usually tell when I am bored of a story, see, as I find myself suddenly doing household chores while watching the episode. This oddly enough, never happened to me during TF Animated or Green Lanter TAS... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-primal.gif)

This post has been edited by BB Shockwave: May 4 2012, 02:49 AM

[Fortress Ironhol...]

Ok, I am curious now... how and where did the writers made that so clear that this USA is... not like the real USA? As in, military and secret service operating on a "we'll just task a single guy to handle all dealings with alien robot deathmachines and have him report to us once a month" basis?

Again - we can't presume that the Prime-verse works the same way as the world we know works.

No matter how you look at it, it is quite silly, compared to the tone of the series. It was fine in Animated where everyone was unphased by the Autobots, due to A: the tone of the series and B: that it was set in the future where humans are well-accustomed to robots. Here the military just... seems not to care much about the whole Giant Robot Civil War. Or how a Decepticon Warship is constantly in orbit of Earth. I'd consider that a BIG military risk. I wonder why Fowler doesn't ever call his superiors the million times the Bots were able to locate the ship, and simply ask Ratchet to ground-bridge a nuke aboard of it.

There's no way to hide a nuclear detonation. If we popped off a nuke, everyone in the world would know about it, and the other nuclear powers would be inclined to start popping theirs off as well.

And that's just if we detonated it on our soil rather than foreign soil.

[BB Shockwave]

France detonated a lot of them on various small islands, and no-one save for environmentalists (well, and the aboriginals they moved out) cared. USA detonated a few on home soil as well (various deserts). They could easily cover it up as an EMP experiment. It'd be logical.

As for the "This world doesn't work like our world", sorry, not good enough explanation. Especially since anything we have seen so far contradicts it. This world has the same military, same technology levels, heck they even fly jets that look 99% like existing USA military jets, and humans have cars that look 99% like existing cars (like BB's almost-Camaro). It's not like HOmer's paralell world where suddenly donuts will fall from the sky when it rains and everyone thinks that's perfectly normal. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-hotrod.gif)

[Fortress Ironhol...]

France detonated a lot of them on various small islands, and no-one save for environmentalists (well, and the aboriginals they moved out) cared. USA detonated a few on home soil as well (various deserts). They could easily cover it up as an EMP experiment. It'd be logical.

As for the "This world doesn't work like our world", sorry, not good enough explanation. Especially since anything we have seen so far contradicts it. This world has the same military, same technology levels, heck they even fly jets that look 99% like existing USA military jets, and humans have cars that look 99% like existing cars (like BB's almost-Camaro). It's not like HOmer's paralell world where suddenly donuts will fall from the sky when it rains and everyone thinks that's perfectly normal. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-hotrod.gif)

"Same technology" doesn't equal "the same".

For example, look at the military hardware.

Prime: The RAH-66 is the standard assault helicopter.
Real World: The RAH-66 was cancelled due to budget concerns.

Prime: The UH-1 is the standard light transport for commandos.
Real World: The UH-60 is the standard light transport for commandos.

Prime: The F-35 is the primary air superiority fighter.
Real World: The F-35 is only just now entering service after an extended testing period.

So at least in these three regards, the development of American military hardware branched off at some point.