Anyone have TF:Prime on Blu-ray?, www.blu-ray.com gave it a poor video quality rating Options

[Magick]

Hi all. Does anyone have the TF:Prime Season One on Blu-ray? I read the review at http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Transformers...y/34899/#Review and was concerned about the banding and general video quality issues. They liked the sound and extras, but dinged the video. I want to get the BR version, but if it has annoying video issues then I'll get the DVD version.

Apologies if this is in the wrong forum. I checked the Transformers TV forum and it appeared to be geared toward individual episodes than DVD reviews.

This post has been edited by Magick: Mar 7 2012, 02:00 AM

[Buster Darkwings]

According to Brian Ward on the Shout Factory forums, the banding is part of the source material. So the DVDs won't look any better in that regard.

This post has been edited by Buster Darkwings: Mar 7 2012, 02:04 AM

[Magick]

I've wondered about that, but was hoping someone who had it could provide more detail.

[God Fire Convoy]

I think tfw reviewed an early copy or something talking about the video quality.the pictures really great, its just "technically" not as great as it could be (banding and all that) but the episodes themselves are still gorgeous to look at. Not really that big of a deal really imo

I should be getting my copy on Thursday. Apparently the blu ray version is online only? (Didn't know that)

[RCX]

Can someone explain what banding is?

[mx-01 archon]

Can someone explain what banding is?

If you do a quick Google image search for "Video Banding" or somesuch, you can get some good examples.

Essentially, colour gradients aren't smoothly blended, meaning that you get distinct "stripes" or "bands" of colours.

[RCX]

*looks it up*

Eh, that jive is par for the course with CGI shows and LCD TVs. These people have too much time on their hands to complain about such minor things, especially with the uber-compression of cable signals these days.

This post has been edited by RCX: Mar 7 2012, 01:02 PM

[Ursa Magnus]

Mine is en route, and should arrive Saturday. I'm anxious to watch these in a quality better than Youtube. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-hotrod.gif)

[Kalidor]

I have the DVD and have reviwed it but I didn't get a Blu-Ray copy.

[mx-01 archon]

I should be getting my copy on Thursday. Apparently the blu ray version is online only? (Didn't know that)

Considering that I just picked it up at Future Shop (Canadian retail) yesterday... no?

[God Fire Convoy]

Hm. Well maybe canaaas different

Some people were sayin on tfw that that's what the deal is (which would explain why I haven't spotted any at the stores. Just the dvd versions)

But anyway, I ordered on amazon n should get it tomorrow

[mx-01 archon]

That could be the case.

In which case, I'm happy to have been able to pick it up on a whim.

This post has been edited by mx-01 archon: Mar 7 2012, 01:40 PM

[Razorsaw]

I got the BD.

I think the show looks AMAZING.

[Professor]

Eh, that jive is par for the course with CGI shows and LCD TVs. These people have too much time on their hands to complain about such minor things, especially with the uber-compression of cable signals these days.

And over cable, they shouldn't complain. The Blu-Ray format, though, is more than capable of running those kinds of images uncompressed, and the production source material almost certainly didn't have the banding either. People should definitely expect better than that from a BD.

[mx-01 archon]

and the production source material almost certainly didn't have the banding either

But apparently it did.

[Shockwave 75]

I got mine from Amazon today and haven't noticed a problem.

[Buster Darkwings]

and the production source material almost certainly didn't have the banding either

But apparently it did.

This doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be in the Blu-ray as well, since there are various technologies that reduce/eliminate it, such as Sony's SBMV: http://www.eclecticelectronics.net/news/so...for-video-sbmv/

Banding used to be fairly common on anime BDs in Japan before companies started using it. I don't expect a small company like Shout Factory to know or bother with such software though, as I imagine the license to use it isn't free.

[Professor]

But apparently it did.

No, what was given to Shout Factory had the banding. It is enormously unlikely that the original renders had the banding, and there are almost certainly uncompressed masters of the episodes out there. At some point it was compressed (maybe for air on HDTV?), and that's apparently what they gave to Shout Factory.

As BD notes, there are ways to remove banding and otherwise clean up lower-res or compressed source material. However, a modern CG-rendered series shouldn't be having this issue in the first place. Someone was thoughtless or indifferent about what source material was given to Shout to work from.