Mass Effect 3 Thread, Spoilers Abound! ALL OF THE GAME SPOILED WITHIN! Options

[Murry]

Only good for Bioware. The fans that paid good money for the game will have to PAY AGAIN to have the real ending for the game. This is going to set a president that other game companies will probably follow.

The days of buying a game and receiving the ending without paying more money will be over. Imagine Gears of War 3 ending as your getting off the elevator before facing off against the queen and you see a "To be continued in DLC pack 1" flash on the screen.

Didn't we hit that first with Final Fantasy XIII-2 which apparently has.. no ending at all?

[Nyarlathotep]

Only good for Bioware. The fans that paid good money for the game will have to PAY AGAIN to have the real ending for the game. This is going to set a president that other game companies will probably follow.

The days of buying a game and receiving the ending without paying more money will be over. Imagine Gears of War 3 ending as your getting off the elevator before facing off against the queen and you see a "To be continued in DLC pack 1" flash on the screen.

Didn't we hit that first with Final Fantasy XIII-2 which apparently has.. no ending at all?

It has several false paradoxical endings and one HIGHLIGHT to view:
TO BE CONTINUED ending.

So not quite.

Also their DLC consists of an Ultros bossfight, so I really cannot complain.

[Frost181]

you could argue that prince of persia did it first in 2009... except that the epilogue didn't really change much from the original "ending"

[Silent_Magnus]

I was not happy with the ending, but I think forcing them to change it is kind of crazy.

Although, I guess now that it is happening I just hope they at least make the endings less vague and maybe give some closure.
I was pretty content with the game until the end, but then both of the possible choices I tried made me wonder if there was point to the decisions I made leading up to it.

This post has been edited by Silent_Magnus: Mar 21 2012, 04:41 PM

[Rust]

Only good for Bioware. The fans that paid good money for the game will have to PAY AGAIN to have the real ending for the game. This is going to set a president that other game companies will probably follow.

*Eyes Fallout 3 and its "Broken Steel" DLC*

Yes. Because nothing like this has ever happened before.


EDIT: Frankly, I think this is a bad move. I haven't beaten ME3 yet - honestly the hostility towards the ending is making me honestly not really all that eager to play it - but having finished Thessia, all I can say is I honestly don't know how this game could end on a positive note. (edit edit: honestly!)

The Homeworlds of Humanity, Asari, and Turian are literally burning with the homeworlds of the Volus and Elcor all but lost. The Batarians are effectively extinct in a few generations. And despite the "Feel Good" moments of curing the Genophage or ending the Quarian/Geth war, the overall tone of the game is "Farting into a Hurricane and hoping it's enough to change its path".

I mean, the reveal that the Crucible isn't just the work of the Portheans but multitudes of species over millenia is absolutely sobering. The countless dead of bygone eras have all tried to hold back the tide and failed.

Yet fans somehow want the crew of one cruiser to somehow make everything right again? Heck, I don't know if curing the Genophage was a good idea or not! Yeah, Wrex has his head on straight, but Wrex isn't going to lead the Krogan forever. That's not even considering the possibility that the Reaper Code that gave the Geth true intelligence doesn't automatically make them susceptible to indoctrination.

I'm making the best calls I can, but nothing in the game or the universe says those are good calls to make. So ultimately, I don't see how the ending could possibly make things worse. Because where I'm sitting, I'm witnessing the wholesale extinction of dozens of species. Doesn't get much darker then that.

This post has been edited by Rust: Mar 21 2012, 05:19 PM

[Silent_Magnus]

Only good for Bioware. The fans that paid good money for the game will have to PAY AGAIN to have the real ending for the game. This is going to set a president that other game companies will probably follow.

*Eyes Fallout 3 and its "Broken Steel" DLC*

Yes. Because nothing like this has ever happened before.


EDIT: Frankly, I think this is a bad move. I haven't beaten ME3 yet - honestly the hostility towards the ending is making me honestly not really all that eager to play it - but having finished Thessia, all I can say is I honestly don't know how this game could end on a positive note. (edit edit: honestly!)

I'm not looking for a happy ending. I just want one that isn't vague and generic.

[Rust]

I'm not looking for a happy ending. I just want one that isn't vague and generic.

Given I'd like to see more done with the universe they've built with Mass Effect, I'd rather have something vague and generic to give them enough wiggle room to add to the mythos. Because ultimately, Mass Effect is a setting I don't want to have to leave.

Capstone Shepard's story (Because really, how many suicide missions can one man/woman make it back alive from?), but leave the rest up in the air to explore later. At this point, I think Mass Effect has grown beyond Shepard's story.

It really isn't Shepard and Company driving the ME3 story for me. It's the secondary characters - the Krogan and Asari lovebirds on Illium from ME2 and how their story played out punched me right in the gut, or the teenage girl waiting for her parents shuttle on the Refugee deck for my wife.

This post has been edited by Rust: Mar 21 2012, 06:52 PM

[Silent_Magnus]

I guess my real problem with the endings is that they all radically change the galaxy, and I wasn't really satisfied with how much of it we got to explore in these 3 games. If we get another game that moves forward it will have to take place VERY far down the timeline, and things will probably be pretty different then.

I think I would like the next game to take place before Shepard's time.
Preferably before Humans arrive on the scene, but I doubt that would be very marketable.

This post has been edited by Silent_Magnus: Mar 21 2012, 07:21 PM

[Esser-Z]

I don't need a totally happy ending, but I want one that doesn't remove a key piece of the setting.

[Murry]

Id like one that didn't amount to a whole lot of plot holeage and almost every character acting out of character.

[Esser-Z]

I also want Shep to live goddamnit. She's earned a happy ending.

[Rust]

Yeah, home planet all but destroyed, a majority of friends dead, and going to personally be held responsible for anything that goes wrong in the rebuilding effort.

Sounds like a happy ending to me.


I dunno, call me cynical, but ever since the first game I knew Shepard wasn't getting out of this mess alive. Like I said, there's only so many suicide runs you can make before your ticket gets punched. Between the Blitz, Vermire, the Battle of the Citadel, the Collector attack, the Derelict Reaper, and the Collector Base...

Shepard's luck was bound to come up snake eyes eventually.

This post has been edited by Rust: Mar 21 2012, 08:42 PM

[Esser-Z]

Majority of friends dead? Last I checked, my crew was alive.

It's not a PERFECT happy ending, but it shouldn't be. Some kind of lives (With the love interest of choice) would be really nice though.

Shep's hugging Commander Shepard. She can damn well survive.

This post has been edited by Esser-Z: Mar 21 2012, 09:06 PM

[Rust]

Majority of friends dead? Last I checked, my crew was alive.

Thus far my tally of Dead include Kaiden, Presley, Thane, Legion, and Mordin (And Samara if I hadn't stopped her). I figure that number will climb the closer I get to the finale, so I thought it was a safe bet.

[Esser-Z]

Well, sure, some of 'em die, yeah. But... I've got a bunch left, plus any off-screen friends. Tragic, but not life-ending.

[chiasaur11]

Majority of friends dead? Last I checked, my crew was alive.

It's not a PERFECT happy ending, but it shouldn't be. Some kind of lives (With the love interest of choice) would be really nice though.

Shep's hugging Commander Shepard. She can damn well survive.

My Shep's a colonist sole survivor.

I'd say that between the massacre of everyone she ever knew on her sweet 16 and a special matinee showing on Akuze at 23, the 20 or so former Normandy crewmembers are a distinct minority.

Ending being downbeat wouldn't exactly stand out. Nah, problem is the ending was bad more than it being downbeat. (some of the endings, problem leans more the other way).

In fact, the BLEAK YOU LOSE ending has been widely seen as the best of the batch.

A tip, Rust?

When things get bad, really bad?

Bright red will see you through as well as anything. Best of a bad set.

(And man. Bioware really looks to want to set this right. Good on them. Better if they succeed, but even trying is amazing.)

[Silent_Magnus]

I think I would like the next game to take place before Shepard's time.
Preferably before Humans arrive on the scene, but I doubt that would be very marketable.

Thinking about this some more, I think I'd love something with Liara's "father". She seems like she lead a pretty interesting life.

edit: Wait, Matriarch Aethyta was in this game? I didn't know that until I went to go read her entry on the Mass Effect wiki after making this post.
How did I miss that? I'm normally pretty thorough about clicking everything I can. Oh well, luckily I'm also pretty thorough about saving so I was able to go back and check that stuff out. I'll have to make sure to catch that with any future playthroughs.

"Anthropocentric bag of dicks", nice nickname for humanity.

This post has been edited by Silent_Magnus: Mar 22 2012, 10:27 AM

[Esser-Z]

Speaking of Aethya, I've decided to ship her with Hannah Shepard, much to Shepard and Liara's (as you probably know by now, my official pairing) dismay. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-fire.gif)

[Esser-Z]

Playing through as a Vanguard. This is an entirely different game. It's not a cover shooter at all.

[chiasaur11]

Playing through as a Vanguard. This is an entirely different game. It's not a cover shooter at all.

Welcome to the class of kings.

What shotgun are you using?