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post Feb 8 2012, 09:12 AM
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I've just kind of been trolling through this whole thread waiting until we saw pics of all the parts. Now that I've seen them, I can't even begin to say how excited I am about this. I don't think I've been this excited about a hasbro product in a few years. Congrats on pulling money out of my wallet.


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post Feb 8 2012, 09:16 AM
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I don't understand what looks so bad about Bruticus that everyone apparently hates him?


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post Feb 8 2012, 09:21 AM
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I don't hate him.

I want to touch him.


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post Feb 8 2012, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(M Sipher @ Feb 8 2012, 09:12 AM) *
I am thoroughly down with Vortex being not-gray. It really makes the combined mode work better. I mean, the torso is mostly gray. The other three limbs... are not gray. Thus, I definitely prefer the fourth limb to be not grey.


M "And When Are We Gonna Stop Using Digital Stock Photography As 'This Is 100% What The Toy Will Look Like'? Haven't We Learned That Lesson Multiple Times?" Sipher

I love the color of Vortex's chest in the concept art, but not as his primary or secondary color.

I will say his two swords and blade weapon are awesome, and he's gonna chop you up!

QUOTE(Kil @ Feb 8 2012, 09:16 AM) *
I don't understand what looks so bad about Bruticus that everyone apparently hates him?


I think he's quite great honestly. I just wish some of the colors were more like the concept. Doesn't mean they won't match in the game though.

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post Feb 8 2012, 09:29 AM
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I love how if you just got Brawl's Pistol and Swindle's gun. You could make a pretty Awesome Sniper rifle! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-silverbolt.gif)



I honestly really like Bruticus so far. The only thing I wish, is that it were possible for each seperate figure to have a bit more paint. Im not complaining, but thats about it. Considering that they did a good job in painting what needed to be painted im happy.

I just feel it would be nice if Vortex and Brawl's head were painted, and if those red helicopter blades on Vortex had some silver paint.



I'm gonna definately adding some more detail on these guys when I get them. Otherwise their nice the way they are.


My only real disapointment with Vortex. Is I doubt you can get the Helicopter blades to all turn upwards. Im pretty certain they can mount on his back. Despite it not being in the photography. Im just a little disapointed that you can't do it the same way like in the concept art. Due to a lack of an extra joint or two. To curve the blades upwards.

I'm absolutely fine with a tan Vortex. He just needs a bit of hand applied painting later on to be even closer to his concept artwork.


Otherwise. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-silverbolt.gif)


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post Feb 8 2012, 09:42 AM
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Call me kooky, but I'm looking forward to owning Blast Off and Vortex. The rest I might track down just for the sake of a complete Bruticus, but those two are must buys for me. :-)


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post Feb 8 2012, 09:45 AM
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I'm guessing that the big combined gun plugs into Bruty's back and gives us the double guns.


...or is that a thing that's obvious to everyone else and I'm just slow?
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post Feb 8 2012, 09:47 AM
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My one complaint about Blast Off is that he just has way too many tail fins. Counting the ones on his guns, he's got seven. That's insane.

Vortex is a rare specimen of the vicious helicopter shark.

Bruticus is just waiting for the right pose. (And the right transformation.)


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while Vortex gets completely random-ass colors.
QUOTE(GALVATRON I @ Feb 8 2012, 04:33 AM) *
while Vortex gets completely random ass-colors.

Hehe.


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picking up and using hand-held weapons (as none of the Energon combiners had integrated weapons...), changing ammo,

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Show me a five-robot combiner holding a gun, and I'll show you four robots whose time would be better spent elsewhere.


Think of this like that - could 5 soldiers carry and operate a siege cannon on their shoulders? A giant can do that AND smash anything in his way at the same time.

If the gun is too big for individuals to carry, then how does it get out to the battlefield? I mean, unless the combiner never separates, but at that point, you effectively don't even have a combiner, just a big guy who doesn't transform.


QUOTE(Magnus @ Feb 8 2012, 08:11 AM) *
I...hm. I guess there's a reason why the middle figure usually needs to be slightly bigger than the limbs.

I read this as "middle finger" and you wouldn't believe how confused I was.


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I guess I'm just a bad G1 Fan.

I don't even notice or care that the Combaticons aren't the right colors. I just saw Bruticus, Brawl, and Swindle and my inner child squealed with glee.

That's all right. I'm a bad G1 fan, too. I can't even remember what color Vortex is "supposed" to be.


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post Feb 8 2012, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(▲ndrusi @ Feb 8 2012, 09:47 AM) *
My one complaint about Blast Off is that he just has way too many tail fins. Counting the ones on his guns, he's got seven. That's insane.



That's the best thing about him!

Seriously, Blast Off is only one of these I really want, and his crazy over abundance of tailfins is pretty much the reason why.


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post Feb 8 2012, 09:59 AM
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My Vortex and my Armada Optimus Prime are gonna shake hands with their ankles.


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Vortex looks like a fun toy. Don't care much about the individual modes of the others. I also wish Vortex were in G1 colors, but I understand he's not "classics" either.

Is it even feasible that Bruticus has big guns sticking up on his back, or are those guns dedicated elsewhere?


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post Feb 8 2012, 10:03 AM
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I'm guessing that the big combined gun plugs into Bruty's back and gives us the double guns.


...or is that a thing that's obvious to everyone else and I'm just slow?


I hope they do.


But anyways, it seems like the Blade guns from Vortex go underneath the dual barrel's of Onslaughts cannon. Giving it two circular barrel tips as well as two bayonetts.


Pretty intersting. I really hope it can be back mounted. But you really need Vortex's blades to give the cannon circular barrel tips. An addition of blades makes it also a melee weapon when in hand. Which is pretty neat.

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post Feb 8 2012, 10:05 AM
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The only thing that seriously looks off to me about the combined mode are the orang-utan arms. I'm still going to buy this gray-and-golden god of war!


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post Feb 8 2012, 10:05 AM
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I'm liking the individual bot modes, Bruticus.....not so much. I'm definately holding out for better pics before deciding yay or nay on these guys but I REALLY hope this guy can look better. As others have said he looks like a deluxe size PCC which at this scale just looks plain awful IMO.


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post Feb 8 2012, 10:12 AM
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Anyone else note that Vortex, still has his dual arm mounted machineguns?


The black components on his shoulders in the box art seem to be the machineguns. Their scuplted onto the toy but are unpainted.


Thats pretty sweet honestly. Because even though their a bit inconspicuous. It makes the dagger guns feel like a nice addition.


Considering he was always the torturer/interrorgator of the group. It is nice for him to have two daggers. And, im pretty happy that he still technically has his chainguns.

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post Feb 8 2012, 10:14 AM
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Man, Blast-off is busy. Between all the fins and the gold - he's Donald Trump's space shuttle, I'll bet he's got a solid marble interior. Vortex is just not right. I can understand trying to liven up the colors, but man - they kept everything else in the same family and then ... Vortex. I'm taking solace in the fact that the real toys are nearly always more muted than the pictures and these two won't be quite so bright.

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Yes, that's his bloody point. Combiners are like siege machines. They can take the fire and provide cover for the foot soldiers while also devastating enemy fortifications. It's natural that they should have long-range capabilities, otherwise they'd be totally helpless against attacks from the air or from afar. Anyone who played strategy games could confirm that. Or well, just check ancient siege towers, they usually had ballistae in/on them and soldiers with bows/crossbows inside.


Sure, but it's not efficient at all. Just build an actual siege tower, or just use all the various big bombs the Transformers normally have.

The real reason the Combiners are there is to bash other Combiners over the head with radio towers and play godzilla with Optimus Prime.


Yeah, because a giant tower that can only be moved by a few dozen of your precious ground forces is far superior to something that can move and act on its own. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-primal.gif) I'm not arguing the primary purpose for gestalts in the fiction is to look cool but there are some battlefield advantages as well.


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post Feb 8 2012, 10:18 AM
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The compromises of the combiner are to be expected with a team of all deluxes. That works for Liokaiser, Devastator, or Monstructor. Their torsos are two figures. For a scramble city team, you need a disparity in size between the leaders and others.

That said, I still like the look of the combiner and plan on buying two. One for Bruticus and one for customizing. I love Cheets' Computron idea.


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post Feb 8 2012, 10:23 AM
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Blast-Off's sculpting is insane! I don't think I've ever seen a shuttle mode with that much intricate detailing.

Vortex has a very mosquito-like appearance. I miss the grey though.

So the biggest question: how stable will Bruticus be? I hope he's got strong connections and some really good feet.


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post Feb 8 2012, 10:28 AM
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I am not feeling Blast-off at all. That is one weird toy.


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post Feb 8 2012, 10:29 AM
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I can see where the color changes on Vortex aren't unprecedented, but I really don't like them, and don't understand why they made those changes in the game. Plus the toy color scheme takes the game scheme and makes it even more different from his usual colors. It's like, are we sure this isn't FoC G1 Over-Run? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-waspy.gif)

Blast-Off is neat. Hopefully the combiner can be made to look a bit better, but for being only about $60 to complete it I think I like it well enough.

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