Transformers Prime First Edition, Come and gone and staying gone? Options

[ShinRa Inc]

OhcrapIamsostupid.

I messed up and forgot a word in that last questioning post. I meant to ask:

So the RiD Cyberverse Legion Cliffjumper (who is the best version of Prime CLiffjumper, IMO) says "Series 2" on the packaging. I thought he was in the first wave and all that.

Sorry about that. Anyway, what was Series 1 of the Cyberverse Legion Class?

Like I said earlier, DOTM Cyberverse is series 1.

[Axaday]

Is regular FE Cliffjumper in car mode and Zombie in robot mode in their packaging?

Edit - Oh, also are all the Japanese versions from RID?

This post has been edited by Axaday: Feb 6 2012, 10:30 PM

[SwiftEagle]

I got my TakaraTomy FE Vehicon and Cliffjumper today. They're pretty nice, CJ especially (who is a pain, well both of them are, to transform). Also the Vehicon was very mistransformed in his packaging.

Randy

I keep reading that about FE Cliffjumper, but I don't get it. Apart from the minor but brief terror of forcing the back of the car together when the tabs are made of clear plastic, what's so tough about the guy? He seems entirely straightforward.

(And while you're looking at differences, note that TakaraTomy FE Cliffjumper's robot-head horns have been blunted versus the pointier Hasbro ones. Go fig.)

Ax - All the current toys out in Japan are the FE molds. RiD will be the next set, with the lower price and Mini-Cons and etc. Nobody has released Terrorcon Cliffjumper yet.

This post has been edited by SwiftEagle: Feb 7 2012, 12:05 AM

[Magick]

Is regular FE Cliffjumper in car mode and Zombie in robot mode in their packaging?

Edit - Oh, also are all the Japanese versions from RID?

They are if their number starts with "AM-". AM-03 is Takara RID Cliffjumper.

[Magick]

(And while you're looking at differences, note that TakaraTomy FE Cliffjumper's robot-head horns have been blunted versus the pointier Hasbro ones. Go fig.)

Are you serious? Have we entired some backward parallel dimesion? That actually annoys me. I wonder why Takara would choose to do that now? Unless the factory switched the First Editions on them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-fire.gif)

EDIT: Correct quote reference so that my comments makes sense.

This post has been edited by Magick: Feb 7 2012, 11:36 AM

[SwiftEagle]

I don't entirely understand. Which bit seems backwards? Just like here (sort of), Takara released the FEs first and the RiD molds second...except for ZombieCliff, who's coming out in the later assortment there and seemingly not at all here.

[Powered Convoy]

TakaraTomy probably thought it too early to release Zombie Cliffjumper in the First Edition wave they release (it was just one wave for them). Either that or they wanted to hold off on the spoiler for the younger kids until later.

Randy

[Magick]

Sorry for the confusion. I kept the wrong quote in my reply. I was referring to Takara's version having the neutered horns instead of Hasbro.

[G.B.Blackrock]

Sorry for the confusion. I kept the wrong quote in my reply. I was referring to Takara's version having the neutered horns instead of Hasbro.

It's unusual, but not unprecedented. Takara's God Ginrai had "neutered" smokestacks while Hasbro's Powermaster Prime still had longer ones.

[Powered Convoy]

Just recently United Thunderwing has very soft spikes/cannons on his shoulders that Generations Thunderwing and Sky Shadow do not.

Randy

[Rosicrucian]

I caved on Takara Arcee, Starscream and Cliffjumper. I just can't like the RID molds on those better.

[gargunkle]

I can see liking the TT one better for sure, but for my perspective, I can't see paying 2-4x the cost for it.

[Powered Convoy]

Be careful of Cliffjumper's things that flip down below his headlights, I didn't realize they existed and snapped one off trying to cram his legs into car mode.

This is with the presumably more detailed TakaraTomy instructions too.

Randy

[Rosicrucian]

Well, First Edition never hit in this area, and my preorder with BBTS was for the 1.5 wave, and thus got changed to RID.

[RCX]

Be careful of Cliffjumper's things that flip down below his headlights, I didn't realize they existed and snapped one off trying to cram his legs into car mode.

This is with the presumably more detailed TakaraTomy instructions too.

Randy

Ouch. My TT FE Cliffy just went in my BBTS pile of loot. He, Bulk, and the Vehicon are on their way to me!
Also, there is a new pre-order for the Arms Microns (a set of 10, 4 models).

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product...amp;mode=retail

[Powered Convoy]

Yeah it was the TakaraTomy one. The instructions didn't point out (at least I hadn't noticed) flipping that section out, and how his legs were supposed to fold at the knees to fit inside the car.

Randy

[Axaday]

Ax - All the current toys out in Japan are the FE molds. RiD will be the next set, with the lower price and Mini-Cons and etc. Nobody has released Terrorcon Cliffjumper yet.

Ok, why do I see Cliffjumper packaged in either mode on blue cards?

[ChessPieceFace]

Yeah it was the TakaraTomy one. The instructions didn't point out (at least I hadn't noticed) flipping that section out, and how his legs were supposed to fold at the knees to fit inside the car.

Randy

Yeah, the Takara instructions were terrible. I'm still not convinced I'm doing it right--the car's sides still bulge out way more easily than it seems they should--but trying to figure out how to get that toy from robot to car the first time using those instructions was just hopeless. There were clearly notes pointing out important non-pictured steps, but, well, I don't speak Japanese.

I think the Hasbro version, packaged as a car, would be much easier to deal with.

[Powered Convoy]

Ax - All the current toys out in Japan are the FE molds. RiD will be the next set, with the lower price and Mini-Cons and etc. Nobody has released Terrorcon Cliffjumper yet.

Ok, why do I see Cliffjumper packaged in either mode on blue cards?

Car Mode = Hasbro
Robot Mode = TakaraTomy

The Cliffjumper released by TakaraTomy is the First Edition version.

Yeah it was the TakaraTomy one. The instructions didn't point out (at least I hadn't noticed) flipping that section out, and how his legs were supposed to fold at the knees to fit inside the car.

Randy

Yeah, the Takara instructions were terrible. I'm still not convinced I'm doing it right--the car's sides still bulge out way more easily than it seems they should--but trying to figure out how to get that toy from robot to car the first time using those instructions was just hopeless. There were clearly notes pointing out important non-pictured steps, but, well, I don't speak Japanese.

I think the Hasbro version, packaged as a car, would be much easier to deal with.

Did you fold the black parts of his legs down (the knees), as they fold down and to the side sort of like the below when transforming him?

Wrong


Right


Or a approximation of the above.

Randy

[NightViper]

TRANSFORMERS fans,

As we greatly value our TRANSFORMERS fans and consumers, we appreciate the opportunity to clarify and explain the current situation with TRANSFORMERS PRIME First Edition figure availability in the U.S.

We very much apologize for the miscommunication with our great retailers in the U.S. Regrettably, as a result, the TRANSFORMERS PRIME First Edition Wave 2 Deluxe, Wave 1 Voyager and Entertainment Pack figures were posted for pre-sale in error. Final product was not produced for these figures to ship within the U.S. As such, any consumer who placed a pre-sale order with Big Bad Toy Store or Entertainment Earth in the U.S. received a note that their order had been cancelled and these orders will not be fulfilled. While it is common for Hasbro to cancel production and/or shipment of collectible figures prior to being listed for pre-sale, this particular situation was unique. We deeply regret this circumstance and understand your frustration.

We would also like to express that we hear the fan community in the U.S. loud and clear – you want these specific TRANSFORMERS PRIME First Edition figures. While we can’t confirm anything at this time, and the format in which these figures are packaged and distributed may change, the team is looking into ways to make these available at a later date in the U.S. and will keep the fan community and our retailers posted as opportunities develop. We want to make this right, and making these figures available to the U.S. fans is a top priority for the team. We greatly appreciate your understanding and ongoing enthusiasm for the brand and hope in the mean time, you enjoy the TRANSFORMERS PRIME figures that are hitting shelves now and in the coming weeks.


Regards,

The TRANSFORMERS Team