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 Jan 27 2012, 07:27 AM
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 I'm a Veronica man. Group: Citizen Posts: 2,645 Joined: 22-June 05 Member No.: 6,714  |
QUOTE(The Phazer @ Jan 27 2012, 07:03 AM)  This strikes me as an entirely reasonable statement. Hasbro marketing will unquestionably have input on this, and the prevalance of Bumblebee and Optimus toys in larger size classes in recent years suggests their strategy is indeed that big toys need to either be one of these characters, or allowed because one of these characters is already in the case assortment... I was hoping they had snuck something a little bit less obviously Optimus like through, but they haven't really. Phazer ... Isn't that just how this toyline works? (or Toylines in general?) The largest toys are almost inevitably 'hot seller' characters. Ever since they brought back Optimus Prime as a Power Master it's been this way. Action Master Optimus Prime was the largest Action Masters toy. Laser Optimus Prime was the largest Gen2 toy. Optimus Primal and Megatron, Optimal Optimus, Supreme Cheetor and Supreme Optimus Primal... heck, Omega Optimus Prime... I understand there are some exceptions, but most of them (like, say, Unicron from Armada) were featured in the media to an insane degree. I think that the reason it's really noticeable with Prime and Bumblebee nowadays is because, well... there's SO MANY toys coming out nowadays. We've never seen anything remotely resembling this volume of toys in the history of the brand. Or maybe you just don't care about how toylines actually work. --Andrew S. (That's probably the best attitude to take, as a toy collector.) -------------------- |
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Jan 27 2012, 07:56 AM
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 Suddenly, Batcure.  Group: Supporter Posts: 18,849 Joined: 25-February 03 From: YES TOWN Member No.: 2,375 Faction: Lesbian Ninja |
QUOTE(The Phazer @ Jan 27 2012, 07:03 AM) QUOTE(Bug-Saw @ Jan 27 2012, 04:05 AM) QUOTE(NightViper @ Jan 27 2012, 12:02 AM) Same for the testing comment. They took all of the feedback and jammed it all together, making a jumbled mass rather than a streamlined toy. That's it, that's exactly what I was getting at. This toy feels like the designers where getting input from multiple sources telling them "Our marketing research shows that if you do so-and-so, the toy will sell better" and stuff like "You need to do this to keep the cost down". And instead of just focusing on making a good toy, they took all the feedback and jammed it altogether because they were too paranoid that the toy wouldn't sell on its own. This strikes me as an entirely reasonable statement. Hasbro marketing will unquestionably have input on this, and the prevalance of Bumblebee and Optimus toys in larger size classes in recent years suggests their strategy is indeed that big toys need to either be one of these characters, or allowed because one of these characters is already in the case assortment... I was hoping they had snuck something a little bit less obviously Optimus like through, but they haven't really. Phazer You aren't saying the same thing as the statement you said you were agreeing with. --------------------  QUOTE(orionpax44 @ Jun 24 2012, 01:03 AM) Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus. QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Sep 9 2012, 01:53 PM) You're talking to ▲ndrusi. Assume everything that he posts is snark. |
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Jan 27 2012, 10:40 AM
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 Group: Citizen Posts: 1,188 Joined: 20-May 02 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 1,014 |
I'm surprised no one's made a Star Convoy comparison yet.
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Jan 27 2012, 11:08 AM
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 The original darkstream since 2003! Group: Supporter Posts: 19,638 Joined: 18-October 03 From: Aka K.I.R.A. Member No.: 3,718 Faction: Minicon |
i at least hope there are some minicon ports on this thing.
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Jan 27 2012, 12:22 PM
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 I am Babushka Sky Lynx. I come from Russia. Group: Citizen Posts: 6,318 Joined: 11-February 02 From: Memphis, TN Member No.: 641 |
Maybe Fort Max came down with a case of Primus apotheosis.
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Jan 27 2012, 12:36 PM
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 VICTORY IS LOGICAL Group: Citizen Posts: 7,993 Joined: 3-December 05 From: Middle GA Member No.: 7,611 Faction: Decepticon |
QUOTE(RichardX1 @ Jan 27 2012, 10:40 AM) I'm surprised no one's made a Star Convoy comparison yet. They have. -------------------- |
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Jan 27 2012, 12:43 PM
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Group: Citizen Posts: 7,962 Joined: 31-January 04 From: Ct. USA Member No.: 4,093 Faction: RIRFIB |
QUOTE(Mouse_Pad @ Jan 27 2012, 12:22 PM) Maybe Fort Max came down with a case of Primus apotheosis. And a wasting disease. ZacWilliam, Triskaideka-Mbayverse Reductivitis perhaps... -------------------- Ever wonder about the speed of Turbofoxes?
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Jan 27 2012, 02:23 PM
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 Ol' 55 Group: Citizen Posts: 1,916 Joined: 5-November 02 From: OH Member No.: 1,674 |
I'm a little surprised that there are people who thought "Optimus Maximus" wasn't going to look like Optimus Prime.
I'm not sure what's going on with his design, although it certainly reminds me of every other large Cyberverse toy we've gotten. I'll be interested to see what his base mode looks like, but I hope it's good, because I like the robot mode and am excited for there to be a new base-bot. Even if it has to be Optimus Prime this time. |
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Jan 27 2012, 02:25 PM
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 Reluctant Specialist Group: Supporter Posts: 7,310 Joined: 21-December 01 Member No.: 41 |
It's not Optimus Prime. It's just the Autobots' Optimus Megazord.
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Jan 27 2012, 02:59 PM
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 Group: Citizen Posts: 7,336 Joined: 22-February 03 From: Toccoa Ga. Member No.: 2,358 Faction: Maximal |
Great... You just made me want it more ExVee....
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Jan 27 2012, 03:02 PM
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 Check the pecs! Group: Citizen Posts: 8,276 Joined: 17-May 06 From: Galveston, TX Member No.: 8,292 Faction: Predacon |
Nah, it's an Autobot base than can look like Optimus Prime.
Tell me that wouldn't freak the hug out of G1 Megs. "Decepticons, attack! The Autobot base is unprotected!" >GIANT MOTHERHUGGING OPTIMUS PRIME STANDS UP< "What? Optimus Prime? How can this be?! Decepticons retreat!!!" -------------------- |
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Jan 27 2012, 03:08 PM
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 super-duper spikey-pokey Group: Citizen Posts: 3,710 Joined: 10-July 06 From: pittsburgh, pa Member No.: 8,464 Faction: Maximal |
Totally reminds me of the gobots power suit combiner
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Jan 27 2012, 03:13 PM
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Suddenly, Batcure. Group: Supporter Posts: 18,849 Joined: 25-February 03 From: YES TOWN Member No.: 2,375 Faction: Lesbian Ninja |
If you guys think he's big now, wait 'til you see him with his trailer! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-fire.gif)
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Jan 27 2012, 03:20 PM
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 Yes, me. Me, me, me. Me too! Group: Supporter Posts: 25,177 Joined: 22-December 04 From: Huntington, WV Member No.: 5,666 Faction: Autobot |
QUOTE(Fishbug @ Jan 27 2012, 03:02 PM) Nah, it's an Autobot base than can look like Optimus Prime. Tell me that wouldn't freak the hug out of G1 Megs. "Decepticons, attack! The Autobot base is unprotected!" >GIANT MOTHERHUGGING OPTIMUS PRIME STANDS UP< "What? Optimus Prime? How can this be?! Decepticons retreat!!!" Heh, you may have just helped sell a few of these with that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-fire.gif) --------------------  |
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Jan 27 2012, 03:52 PM
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 Group: Supporter Posts: 2,063 Joined: 14-July 11 From: Dublin, OH Member No.: 14,614 Faction: Autobot |
I'm getting a lot of red flags here. If Walky likes it, I’m not. If someone says it “looks fun,” I won’t be having it. I’ve found those are both code for “this is for very little kids.”
I think this is the Transformers equivalent of The Homer. Or Energon Prime v.2. -------------------- |
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Jan 27 2012, 03:56 PM
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Ol' 55 Group: Citizen Posts: 1,916 Joined: 5-November 02 From: OH Member No.: 1,674 |
QUOTE(Benbot @ Jan 27 2012, 08:52 PM) I'm getting a lot of red flags here. If Walky likes it, I’m not. If someone says it “looks fun,” I won’t be having it. I’ve found those are both code for “this is for very little kids.” One must be careful not to buy Transformers toys that are for little kids. |
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Jan 27 2012, 04:01 PM
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 These little ponies really drive us bats. Group: Citizen Posts: 18,637 Joined: 8-February 03 From: Cybertron Member No.: 2,250 Faction: Decepticon |
Off the topic of Optimus Maximus:
I really hope we get a FOC Ironhide and Ratchet. I think Hasbro knows how much the Universe mold is hated, and this would be a good chance to give us a replacement for them, especially with the designs being featured in the current IDW comics. -------------------- ***Signature removed by Staff due to size restrictions. Please keep to 500X200 images and text included.***
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Jan 27 2012, 04:10 PM
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Ol' 55 Group: Citizen Posts: 1,916 Joined: 5-November 02 From: OH Member No.: 1,674 |
A WFC Ratchet toy is just going to give me flashbacks to reactivating Omega Supreme.
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Jan 27 2012, 04:10 PM
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 ARMS UP!! \(^_^)/ Group: News and Content Posts: 12,142 Joined: 2-May 02 Member No.: 940 |
I hope this is not the start of a disturbing everyone-is-Optimus-Prime trend...
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Jan 27 2012, 04:22 PM
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Group: Supporter Posts: 2,063 Joined: 14-July 11 From: Dublin, OH Member No.: 14,614 Faction: Autobot |
QUOTE(LV! @ Jan 27 2012, 03:56 PM) QUOTE(Benbot @ Jan 27 2012, 08:52 PM) I'm getting a lot of red flags here. If Walky likes it, I’m not. If someone says it “looks fun,” I won’t be having it. I’ve found those are both code for “this is for very little kids.” One must be careful not to buy Transformers toys that are for little kids. You can buy what you want. -------------------- |
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