 Transformers ongoing #29 preview. |
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 Oct 28 2011, 02:34 PM
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Group: Citizen Posts: 101 Joined: 23-November 09 Member No.: 12,935 Faction: Unicron's Spawn  |
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/c...preview-173657/
How bad is it, when I actualy agree with Spike? ;P This post has been edited by Gridlock: Oct 28 2011, 02:38 PM |
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Oct 28 2011, 03:24 PM
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 Novus ordo seclorum Group: Forum Moderator Posts: 41,384 Joined: 18-June 03 From: Westlake, OH Member No.: 3,012 Faction: RIBFIR |
Roberts handled this entire decompressed, terrible little arc SO MUCH BETTER in a four issues miniseries and actually used Transformers in a Transformers comic to make his point.
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Oct 28 2011, 06:00 PM
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 Group: Citizen Posts: 2,003 Joined: 9-December 06 From: Oregon, USA Member No.: 9,550 Faction: Predacon |
QUOTE(Gridlock @ Oct 28 2011, 02:34 PM)  http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/c...preview-173657/ How bad is it, when I actualy agree with Spike? ;P I know, right? |
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Oct 28 2011, 07:16 PM
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 Group: Citizen Posts: 1,140 Joined: 11-December 10 Member No.: 13,902 Faction: Autobot |
Those 7 pages look so insanely dull that I just haven't got any will to read the dialog.
They just stand around talking... for 7 freaking pages! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-wildride.gif) |
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Oct 28 2011, 09:00 PM
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Group: Citizen Posts: 7,962 Joined: 31-January 04 From: Ct. USA Member No.: 4,093 Faction: RIRFIB |
QUOTE(D.M @ Oct 28 2011, 08:16 PM) Those 7 pages look so insanely dull that I just haven't got any will to read the dialog. They just stand around talking... for 7 freaking pages! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-wildride.gif) I'd be willing to bet a good portion of the remaining pages go that way too. Costa clearly finds this all riveting. -ZacWilliam, likely there'll be some breif action in there somewhere... Maybe... Right? This post has been edited by ZacWilliam1: Oct 28 2011, 09:01 PM -------------------- Ever wonder about the speed of Turbofoxes?
Or the proverbial ailerons of Titanium Moosebots? *Visit the one and only Cybertronic Bestiary. For a mechazoologic tour of the mechanimals of Cybertron. |
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Oct 28 2011, 09:05 PM
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 Hawksaur  Group: Supporter Posts: 7,948 Joined: 10-December 04 Member No.: 5,603 |
Zac, you know better.
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Oct 29 2011, 02:06 PM
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Group: Citizen Posts: 491 Joined: 25-June 09 Member No.: 12,598 Faction: Decepticon |
I'm sure there'll be room for a fight scene in which half the characters established to be present never appear on panel.
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Oct 29 2011, 03:49 PM
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I write stuff...just not as much as I used to. Group: Citizen Posts: 4,189 Joined: 25-October 05 From: Indianapolis Member No.: 7,491 Faction: Maximal |
Comes across as dull, but not horrible.
Just saying. -------------------- William Rendfeld
That Echowarrior guy... Author of "Transformers: Armada (Revisited)"- Allspark Fic of the Month for December 2005. Archive here. |
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Oct 30 2011, 12:49 AM
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 Quyzbuk Group: Supporter Posts: 12,951 Joined: 22-May 02 From: Toronto Member No.: 1,017 Faction: Autobot |
I forget, who was it that was shown scrapped there?
HIGHLIGHT to view: Wasn't it a Constructicon, some time back? --LBD "Nytetrayn" -------------------- |
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Oct 30 2011, 04:08 AM
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 Keeper of Ironfist's Flame. Group: Citizen Posts: 89 Joined: 23-September 10 Member No.: 13,685 Faction: Free Agent |
The one who was scrapped was Scrapper. Talk about irony.
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Oct 30 2011, 08:21 AM
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Group: Citizen Posts: 1,407 Joined: 5-December 09 Member No.: 12,954 Faction: Decepticon |
What gets to me is no only that it's just seven pages of talking. But the dialogue itself is dull in some places.
Magnus especially. I like that their getting into human and Autobot relations in a realistic way. But it shouldn't feel this dull or strained. -------------------- .
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Oct 30 2011, 02:49 PM
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Group: Citizen Posts: 1,161 Joined: 21-April 07 From: UK Member No.: 10,144 Faction: Free Agent |
Is that supposed to be Ironfist's data-slug there on the table next to Spike?
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Oct 30 2011, 05:48 PM
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MASTER OF THE HATE BONER!!!!!!!! Group: Citizen Posts: 1,285 Joined: 6-October 06 From: NOVA Member No.: 9,097 Faction: Predacon |
The problems you guys are having with this comic are problems that are happening all over comics. Don't get me wrong, I love BMB's stuff in TPB format, but if I had to read anything he wrote on a monthly basis I would go insane.
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Oct 30 2011, 05:54 PM
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Group: Citizen Posts: 491 Joined: 25-June 09 Member No.: 12,598 Faction: Decepticon |
QUOTE(.Scourge. @ Oct 30 2011, 06:48 PM) The problems you guys are having with this comic are problems that are happening all over comics. Bull. 'Everyone else is doing it' should never be a valid defense. You know who writes comics that don't have those problems? James Roberts and John Barber, the guys we've been waiting to take over. The fact fan-preferred writers are coming on board should be the final nail for people insisting we should just sit back and accept an inferior product. |
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Oct 30 2011, 05:54 PM
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 The light which smashes lies! Group: Citizen Posts: 5,355 Joined: 3-March 03 Member No.: 2,433 |
QUOTE(.Scourge. @ Oct 30 2011, 06:48 PM) The problems you guys are having with this comic are problems that are happening all over comics. Don't get me wrong, I love BMB's stuff in TPB format, but if I had to read anything he wrote on a monthly basis I would go insane. Thing is, I've been seeing a conscious move away from this crap from the Big Two; even from Bendis. Besides which, bad is bad regardless of whether it's bad in a trendy way. -------------------- |
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Oct 30 2011, 07:40 PM
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The light which smashes lies! Group: Citizen Posts: 5,355 Joined: 3-March 03 Member No.: 2,433 |
With all the script gripes, there's not enough mention of how outstanding Brendan Cahill's art is. He does the robot faces so well. I hope IDW has a lot of work lined up for him.
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Oct 30 2011, 08:18 PM
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In direct contravention of the Military Regalia Act! Group: Citizen Posts: 11,077 Joined: 13-January 02 From: London, UK Member No.: 300 |
Magnus feels really out of his IDW character here.
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Oct 31 2011, 09:21 AM
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 Expecting anything else? Group: Citizen Posts: 249 Joined: 3-December 08 From: Richmond, VA Member No.: 12,145 Faction: Autobot |
I actually liked this preview. Yes it has the typical ongoing/Costa problems of pacing (A particularly lethargic snail being the most apt comparison) but the little morality slow burn here actually works. It's just it would have worked as part one of this interminable storyline.
I agree with Spike, which is somewhat surprising seeing as he's been a thoroughly unlikeable strawman throughout most of the run. I also find myself agreeing, at least slightly with Prowl/Jazz, so it's interesting that neither character is clearly in the right (or obviously in the wrong) here. Magnus does feel a little off. It feels like they've removed the Tyrest Accord stick he's had in his aft for the past 28 or so issues. It doesn't quite work, the plan seems a little hot-headed to come from Magnus. If it was from Jazz, Rodimus or even Streetwise I could see it, but not IDW Magnus (Who's been one of my favorite characters in the run) The art's great, I can tell who's who, it flows clearly with the action (well "action") of the preview. Be interesting to see fi it holds up when stuff actually happens. --------------------  |
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Nov 2 2011, 10:00 AM
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 "Are you pony enough for this mission?" Group: Citizen Posts: 7,817 Joined: 23-June 10 From: Hungary Member No.: 13,398 Faction: Decepticon |
QUOTE(Gridlock @ Oct 28 2011, 08:34 PM) http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/c...preview-173657/ How bad is it, when I actualy agree with Spike? ;P I said the same thing a few times - the way Prowl was written in the past IDW comics before Costa came along, he should be helping Spike to sweep the whole thing under the rug. Not to mention how internal human military matters are not really his responsibility. Oh, and Costa never read AHM or its sequels? Skywatch killed off Thrust when he was buried under rubble, I guess that doesn't count as 'murder'. Neither did we hear about what happened to Agent Red and all his cronies, who, under the same organization, brainwashed and controlled Cybertronians, Grimlock included - something Prowl should find more worriesome. I wonder where ol' Grimmer is these days. Primus, I never thought I'd say this in the Furman days, but TF comics sure need a healthy dose of a well-written Grimlock now. This post has been edited by BB Shockwave: Nov 2 2011, 10:05 AM -------------------- |
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Nov 2 2011, 10:09 AM
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 Employee Vigilante Group: Citizen Posts: 27,406 Joined: 12-January 02 From: Columbus, OH Member No.: 245 Faction: RIRFIB |
QUOTE(Gridlock @ Oct 28 2011, 03:34 PM) http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/c...preview-173657/ How bad is it, when I actualy agree with Spike? ;P I'm not sure you're not supposed to. Not every writer depicts 100% villains and 100% heroes. This preview proves to me that the writer at least thinks Spike has a strong point. Though, uh, I guess far be it from me to suggest that perceived moral depth isn't just some laughable mistake. -------------------- |
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