Foundation #1 Options

[lonegamer8]

Out Wednesday, February 23, 2011.

[Bass X0]

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Looks cool.

[Echowarrior]

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Looks cool.

Is cool. Seriously, this is a good book with some crisp, clear artwork. Get it!

[Chris McFeely]

Just a note to anyone who may have been reading the thread over on TFW2005 - seriously, this really doesn't contradict Defiance very much at all, and not in any way that couldn't be undone by the end of the mini.

[Walky]

I echo Chris's statement. There's nothing in here that raises my eyebrow, continuity-wise.

[Chris McFeely]

Pretty much the only thing is Sentinel naming Optimus a Prime when he didn't have the title in Defiance. But as I say, that's nothing that can't be undone by the end of this mini; plus, right now, only three people know about it, and it's really only honorary here, until Optimus learns he's a TRUE Prime in Defiance. Though I suspect Sentinel knows this already and is grooming him for the role, but we shall see how this plays out...

[Walky]

Yeah, the stuff in this issue dances around and references too much from previous movie comics for me to think that the writer is gonna pull that big of a contradiction.

[Walky]

(In related news, time to totally merge Elita (Movie) and Elita (ROTF).)

[BB Shockwave]

So, is Sentinel really Optimus' daddy like Bay said somewhere?

(In related news, time to totally merge Elita (Movie) and Elita (ROTF).)

How so, when in the Arcee ToF comic she was created from Arcee along with Chromia, thanks to the crazy Con surgeon's machinations, and in Defiance, she died on Cybertron prior to this event?

This post has been edited by BB Shockwave: Feb 24 2011, 07:06 AM

[Chris McFeely]

So, is Sentinel really Optimus' daddy like Bay said somewhere?

(In related news, time to totally merge Elita (Movie) and Elita (ROTF).)

How so, when in the Arcee ToF comic she was created from Arcee along with Chromia, thanks to the crazy Con surgeon's machinations, and in Defiance, she died on Cybertron prior to this event?

She deid in "Reign of Starscream", and "Rising Storm" explains that Flatline used Arcee's spark to reignite both Elita's and Chromia's, a retconning of what we saw in "Tales of the Fallen".

[Echowarrior]

So, is Sentinel really Optimus' daddy like Bay said somewhere?

(In related news, time to totally merge Elita (Movie) and Elita (ROTF).)

How so, when in the Arcee ToF comic she was created from Arcee along with Chromia, thanks to the crazy Con surgeon's machinations, and in Defiance, she died on Cybertron prior to this event?

She deid in "Reign of Starscream", and "Rising Storm" explains that Flatline used Arcee's spark to reignite both Elita's and Chromia's, a retconning of what we saw in "Tales of the Fallen".

Not a complete retcon, though - it's all but outright stated that the three have a sort of hive mind thing going on. Kinda weird if you ask me.

[Master Fwiffo]

Of the two books that came out this week, Foundation is the superior of the two based on artwork alone. Griffith does a great job on the Cybertronian bots, even giving a few older toys redesigns (if I'm seeing them right). And once again, Barber is delivering an excellent story with solid writing and an interesting history. Defiance was the better of the two RotF prequels, and this one looks like it will be a very solid complement to the book, filling in a lot of Movieverse's Backstory.

The best aspect is the the explanation of what hapened to Cybertron after the Primes were destroyed. It's not a question I ever really thought about, but after reading the book, it makes sense. Cybertron entered a long dark age with the loss of the Primes, to the point they even forgot what gave them life. I like the roles they are setting up for Sentinel Prime and Shockwave, and am eager to see what DotM will do with these characters.

Excellent book, and highly recommended. Greatly looking forward to issue 2!

[polystyleneman]

Of the two books that came out this week, Foundation is the superior of the two based on artwork alone. Griffith does a great job on the Cybertronian bots, even giving a few older toys redesigns (if I'm seeing them right). And once again, Barber is delivering an excellent story with solid writing and an interesting history. Defiance was the better of the two RotF prequels, and this one looks like it will be a very solid complement to the book, filling in a lot of Movieverse's Backstory.

The best aspect is the the explanation of what hapened to Cybertron after the Primes were destroyed. It's not a question I ever really thought about, but after reading the book, it makes sense. Cybertron entered a long dark age with the loss of the Primes, to the point they even forgot what gave them life. I like the roles they are setting up for Sentinel Prime and Shockwave, and am eager to see what DotM will do with these characters.

Excellent book, and highly recommended. Greatly looking forward to issue 2!

Thanks for the kind words, and I'm really glad you liked the book. It only gets better.

Just thought I'd add a quick comment here explaining why I used the designs that I did. For one thing, the movieverse books have had so many different artists from Milne to Figureoa to Khanna and Magno with so many different looks to the bots that I've been trying to use elements from different artists as an attempt to pull everything together. While Elita-1 is closely following Milne's version of her in ROS, Ironhide's Cybertronian mode is basically Figureoa's design used in Defiance 3, as are several other characters like Brawl and others who are going to appear in the series. Flatline of course is Milne's design as his only appearance has been in TOTF.

I basically did my best to stick to previous designs when possible and if there were conflicting designs used then to go with the one that made more sense. Like For Prime's alt mode, I went with Don's design because it made more sense to me than the teardrop-shaped protoform alt mode he turned into sometimes in Defiance.

In my mind I've justified the different styles of designs as being from the different tribes mentioned in Foundation 1. I kinda figure that the guys who look like Don's work in Defiance might have a common heritage, while the background guys designed by Khanna in Defiance might be from another and so on.

By the way, the two guys who get off'ed in the first few pages have actual character names which are very telling, Deadguy and Cannonfodder.

Anyway, just trying to add a little insight for the curious....

[Cattleprod]

By the way, the two guys who get off'ed in the first few pages have actual character names which are very telling, Deadguy and Cannonfodder.

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That is AWESOME. Which one is which? The wiki must know.

Edit: I just recalled one of them was female, so I assume she's not Deadguy. Never hurts to be sure, though.

This post has been edited by Cattleprod: Feb 25 2011, 12:15 AM

[polystyleneman]

By the way, the two guys who get off'ed in the first few pages have actual character names which are very telling, Deadguy and Cannonfodder.

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...

...

That is AWESOME. Which one is which? The wiki must know.

Edit: I just recalled one of them was female, so I assume she's not Deadguy. Never hurts to be sure, though.

Actually they were both "male" but I guess the one did have sort of fembot traits, which would be Cannonfodder. I designed him with a mix of BB and Arcee in mind, as a younger Autobot eager to please Optimus and prove himself on the battlefield. Meanwhile Deadguy was designed to look like he was a flyer yet followed Optimus on foot and willing to go wherever Optimus did.

[Master Fwiffo]

Of the two books that came out this week, Foundation is the superior of the two based on artwork alone. Griffith does a great job on the Cybertronian bots, even giving a few older toys redesigns (if I'm seeing them right). And once again, Barber is delivering an excellent story with solid writing and an interesting history. Defiance was the better of the two RotF prequels, and this one looks like it will be a very solid complement to the book, filling in a lot of Movieverse's Backstory.

The best aspect is the the explanation of what hapened to Cybertron after the Primes were destroyed. It's not a question I ever really thought about, but after reading the book, it makes sense. Cybertron entered a long dark age with the loss of the Primes, to the point they even forgot what gave them life. I like the roles they are setting up for Sentinel Prime and Shockwave, and am eager to see what DotM will do with these characters.

Excellent book, and highly recommended. Greatly looking forward to issue 2!

Thanks for the kind words, and I'm really glad you liked the book. It only gets better.

Just thought I'd add a quick comment here explaining why I used the designs that I did. For one thing, the movieverse books have had so many different artists from Milne to Figureoa to Khanna and Magno with so many different looks to the bots that I've been trying to use elements from different artists as an attempt to pull everything together. While Elita-1 is closely following Milne's version of her in ROS, Ironhide's Cybertronian mode is basically Figureoa's design used in Defiance 3, as are several other characters like Brawl and others who are going to appear in the series. Flatline of course is Milne's design as his only appearance has been in TOTF.

I basically did my best to stick to previous designs when possible and if there were conflicting designs used then to go with the one that made more sense. Like For Prime's alt mode, I went with Don's design because it made more sense to me than the teardrop-shaped protoform alt mode he turned into sometimes in Defiance.

In my mind I've justified the different styles of designs as being from the different tribes mentioned in Foundation 1. I kinda figure that the guys who look like Don's work in Defiance might have a common heritage, while the background guys designed by Khanna in Defiance might be from another and so on.

By the way, the two guys who get off'ed in the first few pages have actual character names which are very telling, Deadguy and Cannonfodder.

Anyway, just trying to add a little insight for the curious....

Wow, great to hear from you! Your mesh of styles works fairly well. Love the character names! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-fire.gif) I especially love the Tribes explanation - it would explain some of the more radical difference we've seen in some bots.

Say, I don't know if you can answer this, but is there a reason that Shockwave's design (in both books) differs from the final design we've seen via the toy and game promotions?

This post has been edited by Master Fwiffo: Feb 25 2011, 12:31 AM

[Cattleprod]

Actually they were both "male" but I guess the one did have sort of fembot traits, which would be Cannonfodder.

Oops, yeah, I guess he doesn't really have many fembot traits beyond 'is a motorcycle'. His similar coloration to Elita-1 might've confused me when just glancing back at it.

Since we haven't driven you away with inane questions (yet), is the purple-ish seeker on page 5 based on Cyclonus, or am I seeing things?

[polystyleneman]

Actually they were both "male" but I guess the one did have sort of fembot traits, which would be Cannonfodder.

Oops, yeah, I guess he doesn't really have many fembot traits beyond 'is a motorcycle'. His similar coloration to Elita-1 might've confused me when just glancing back at it.

Since we haven't driven you away with inane questions (yet), is the purple-ish seeker on page 5 based on Cyclonus, or am I seeing things?

Sadly no. He's basically just a "repaint" of Ramjet and Priscilla is solely responsible for the color choice. Though she might have had him in mind, I'm not sure. If you like Cyclonus easter eggs though, keep your eyes peeled in this series....

[polystyleneman]

Of the two books that came out this week, Foundation is the superior of the two based on artwork alone. Griffith does a great job on the Cybertronian bots, even giving a few older toys redesigns (if I'm seeing them right). And once again, Barber is delivering an excellent story with solid writing and an interesting history. Defiance was the better of the two RotF prequels, and this one looks like it will be a very solid complement to the book, filling in a lot of Movieverse's Backstory.

The best aspect is the the explanation of what hapened to Cybertron after the Primes were destroyed. It's not a question I ever really thought about, but after reading the book, it makes sense. Cybertron entered a long dark age with the loss of the Primes, to the point they even forgot what gave them life. I like the roles they are setting up for Sentinel Prime and Shockwave, and am eager to see what DotM will do with these characters.

Excellent book, and highly recommended. Greatly looking forward to issue 2!

Thanks for the kind words, and I'm really glad you liked the book. It only gets better.

Just thought I'd add a quick comment here explaining why I used the designs that I did. For one thing, the movieverse books have had so many different artists from Milne to Figureoa to Khanna and Magno with so many different looks to the bots that I've been trying to use elements from different artists as an attempt to pull everything together. While Elita-1 is closely following Milne's version of her in ROS, Ironhide's Cybertronian mode is basically Figureoa's design used in Defiance 3, as are several other characters like Brawl and others who are going to appear in the series. Flatline of course is Milne's design as his only appearance has been in TOTF.

I basically did my best to stick to previous designs when possible and if there were conflicting designs used then to go with the one that made more sense. Like For Prime's alt mode, I went with Don's design because it made more sense to me than the teardrop-shaped protoform alt mode he turned into sometimes in Defiance.

In my mind I've justified the different styles of designs as being from the different tribes mentioned in Foundation 1. I kinda figure that the guys who look like Don's work in Defiance might have a common heritage, while the background guys designed by Khanna in Defiance might be from another and so on.

By the way, the two guys who get off'ed in the first few pages have actual character names which are very telling, Deadguy and Cannonfodder.

Anyway, just trying to add a little insight for the curious....

Wow, great to hear from you! Your mesh of styles works fairly well. Love the character names! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-fire.gif) I especially love the Tribes explanation - it would explain some of the more radical difference we've seen in some bots.

Say, I don't know if you can answer this, but is there a reason that Shockwave's design (in both books) differs from the final design we've seen via the toy and game promotions?

I'm not at liberty to say anything about SW, buy Andy addressed it sorta on the IDW forums today.

[Master Fwiffo]

Of the two books that came out this week, Foundation is the superior of the two based on artwork alone. Griffith does a great job on the Cybertronian bots, even giving a few older toys redesigns (if I'm seeing them right). And once again, Barber is delivering an excellent story with solid writing and an interesting history. Defiance was the better of the two RotF prequels, and this one looks like it will be a very solid complement to the book, filling in a lot of Movieverse's Backstory.

The best aspect is the the explanation of what hapened to Cybertron after the Primes were destroyed. It's not a question I ever really thought about, but after reading the book, it makes sense. Cybertron entered a long dark age with the loss of the Primes, to the point they even forgot what gave them life. I like the roles they are setting up for Sentinel Prime and Shockwave, and am eager to see what DotM will do with these characters.

Excellent book, and highly recommended. Greatly looking forward to issue 2!

Thanks for the kind words, and I'm really glad you liked the book. It only gets better.

Just thought I'd add a quick comment here explaining why I used the designs that I did. For one thing, the movieverse books have had so many different artists from Milne to Figureoa to Khanna and Magno with so many different looks to the bots that I've been trying to use elements from different artists as an attempt to pull everything together. While Elita-1 is closely following Milne's version of her in ROS, Ironhide's Cybertronian mode is basically Figureoa's design used in Defiance 3, as are several other characters like Brawl and others who are going to appear in the series. Flatline of course is Milne's design as his only appearance has been in TOTF.

I basically did my best to stick to previous designs when possible and if there were conflicting designs used then to go with the one that made more sense. Like For Prime's alt mode, I went with Don's design because it made more sense to me than the teardrop-shaped protoform alt mode he turned into sometimes in Defiance.

In my mind I've justified the different styles of designs as being from the different tribes mentioned in Foundation 1. I kinda figure that the guys who look like Don's work in Defiance might have a common heritage, while the background guys designed by Khanna in Defiance might be from another and so on.

By the way, the two guys who get off'ed in the first few pages have actual character names which are very telling, Deadguy and Cannonfodder.

Anyway, just trying to add a little insight for the curious....

Wow, great to hear from you! Your mesh of styles works fairly well. Love the character names! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-fire.gif) I especially love the Tribes explanation - it would explain some of the more radical difference we've seen in some bots.

Say, I don't know if you can answer this, but is there a reason that Shockwave's design (in both books) differs from the final design we've seen via the toy and game promotions?

I'm not at liberty to say anything about SW, buy Andy addressed it sorta on the IDW forums today.

Ah, thanks!