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 Jan 17 2011, 02:28 PM
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 True Blue Heroes Group: Citizen Posts: 24,705 Joined: 12-January 02 Member No.: 280  |
Undermine's robot mode is untraditional, but I love it so very very much.
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Jan 17 2011, 03:04 PM
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 Broom broom! Group: Citizen Posts: 2,630 Joined: 21-June 07 From: The center of the Earth Member No.: 10,345 Faction: Free Agent |
QUOTE(Creature SH @ Jan 17 2011, 01:27 PM)  I just don't get why they keep re-releasing these molds, of all things. The robot modes for Backstop and Undermine are some of the worst in recent memory. Backstop is a squatty side-view of a rhino with extra legs, head and an arm growing out of its ass, and Undermine's robot mode actually has less functional arms and head than his alt mode. How does that even begin to make sense? QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Jan 17 2011, 01:28 PM) Undermine's robot mode is untraditional, but I love it so very very much. I liked him a lot better once I realized that he basically has the same head as Submarauder's pretender shell. In fact, if they redeco'd him in Submarauder's color scheme, I would snatch that up pretty quick. --------------------  |
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Jan 17 2011, 03:12 PM
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 Group: Citizen Posts: 5,649 Joined: 29-June 03 From: New Haven, CT, USA Member No.: 3,087 |
QUOTE(Creature SH @ Jan 17 2011, 02:27 PM) I just don't get why they keep re-releasing these molds, of all things. The robot modes for Backstop and Undermine are some of the worst in recent memory. Backstop is a squatty side-view of a rhino with extra legs, head and an arm growing out of its ass, and Undermine's robot mode actually has less functional arms and head than his alt mode. How does that even begin to make sense? Backstop and Undermine are awesome toys. Undermine's redeco Repugnus is even more awesome. Wreckloose, on the other hand.... not so much with the awesome. --------------------  |
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Jan 17 2011, 03:30 PM
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 President of the Deflowering Club Group: News and Content Posts: 41,385 Joined: 26-April 02 Member No.: 905 Faction: RIRFIB |
Dinoshout is awesome too. I liked him and Undermine so much (as they are very different) I bought both instead of just one (which I wasn't buying two of anything besides Master Megatron during Cybertron).
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Jan 17 2011, 03:48 PM
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 Blasphemer Group: Citizen Posts: 15,380 Joined: 29-January 05 From: Copperas Cove, Texas Member No.: 5,902 |
QUOTE(NightViper @ Jan 17 2011, 12:10 PM) Wreckloose and Undermine (Or check out the article on the front page: http://www.allspark.com/content/view/8338/20/ ) Wreckloose's new colors remind me of BW Iguanus (the first one). Anyone else get that vibe? ** And yes, for those who are wondering - It's just easier for toy companies to make redecoes or to repackage previously released product whenever the stores want exclusive product. For example, back in '88 TRU wanted Hasbro to produce some exclusive Joe product for their stores. The end result was the Night Force subset, which consisted of select figures from the previous year's assortment and what "classic" vehicle molds they hadn't yet farmed out to Brazil or India, all of which were redone in black & gray. Thing is, Hasbro's policy of carrying product over for a full release year meant that the original 1987 versions of all those Night Force figures were still shipping to stores. As such, you could have hypothetically had the general release 1987 Falcon figure sitting on the pegs next to his Night Force incarnation. Given that the auction headings said "TF Club" on them, I'm wondering if these weren't intended as exclusives for general release somewhere. Backstop would, obviously, have to be redecoed as the original decos might still be on the shelves. But the other two haven't seen the light of day in a while. Furthermore, the fact that Backstop's bio has been altered suggests that we might even be looking at a separate character (kinda like how the Target redecoes of the Energon and Cybertron scouts were supposed to be the Movie-verse versions of those characters). -------------------- Lexicon: still up and running!
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Jan 17 2011, 04:28 PM
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 The light which smashes lies! Group: Citizen Posts: 5,372 Joined: 3-March 03 Member No.: 2,433 |
Huh. All three of these are new characters. Which means I can repurpose three toys I really like into some universe I actually give a crap about, so that's nice.
People don't like Wreckloose? Maybe it was just due to how much I missed Beast Wars at the time, but I remember him being awesome. -------------------- |
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Jan 17 2011, 04:30 PM
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 This Title Section Needs To Be Longer Group: Citizen Posts: 3,635 Joined: 9-February 02 Member No.: 628 |
QUOTE(Chip @ Jan 17 2011, 04:28 PM) Huh. All three of these are new characters. Which means I can repurpose three toys I really like into some universe I actually give a crap about, so that's nice. People don't like Wreckloose? Maybe it was just due to how much I missed Beast Wars at the time, but I remember him being awesome. That's because he is awesome. How can a Komodo dragon wearing a battle helmet with moose antlers not be awesome? -------------------- If You Even Dream Of Beating Me, You'd Better Wake Up And Apologise.
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Jan 17 2011, 04:59 PM
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 These little ponies really drive us bats. Group: Citizen Posts: 18,803 Joined: 8-February 03 From: Cybertron Member No.: 2,250 Faction: Decepticon |
QUOTE(NightViper @ Jan 17 2011, 01:40 PM) *Edit* Every time I look at this Backstop, the more I want him. Why do I actually have to like that mold despite its countless flaws! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-fire.gif) Insanity? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-waspy.gif) -------------------- ***Signature removed by Staff due to size restrictions. Please keep to 500X200 images and text included.***
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Jan 17 2011, 05:23 PM
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Group: Citizen Posts: 116 Joined: 30-June 06 Member No.: 8,418 Faction: Unicron's Spawn |
I think I see an odd Transmetal Rinox homage in Backstop's colors. Not sure, though.
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Jan 17 2011, 05:38 PM
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 Entertainment Earth Marketing Stooge Group: Citizen Posts: 523 Joined: 19-June 05 From: Entertainment Earth Member No.: 6,691 |
QUOTE(gpilkay @ Jan 17 2011, 05:23 PM) I think I see an odd Transmetal Rinox homage in Backstop's colors. Not sure, though. That's what I saw, and why I will buy one. Unless it ends up like that sassin'-frassin' Mini-Con 8-pack in Bulgaria or whatever. -------------------- |
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Jan 17 2011, 06:11 PM
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 Tinja Nurtles. Group: Citizen Posts: 10,084 Joined: 26-June 02 Member No.: 1,143 |
Innnnnnnteresting. I will certainly have to get Backstop... and just repurpose the other two.
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Jan 17 2011, 06:17 PM
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 You done hug'd up now! Group: Citizen Posts: 658 Joined: 10-February 06 From: Hampton, Virginia Member No.: 7,877 Faction: Decepticon |
Frag. I saw the topic and thought of Scout class characters from War For Cybertron :/
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Jan 17 2011, 08:56 PM
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 Group: Citizen Posts: 1,138 Joined: 28-July 06 Member No.: 8,563 |
I gotta say, I refused to get Backstop back in Cybertron, but after the movie lines I think I want him more than say, Arcee, that f***ing Ratchet mold that won't just melt already, or a few others.
So Wreckloose is getting a re-release (with blue Cyber Key. That looks better.), eh? That makes me happy because he's one of the few TFs I regret selling when I had to thin out my collection a few years back. As for Undermine, he's still one of my favorites from Cybertron, but I wish he'd get a new paint job or they'd re-release the red version instead so I have a good excuse to buy another one. This post has been edited by Blade Raider: Jan 17 2011, 08:57 PM -------------------- |
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Jan 17 2011, 09:24 PM
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 D-69 Even on Krypton Group: Citizen Posts: 19,845 Joined: 17-January 03 From: Ontario Canada Member No.: 1,958 Faction: Decepticon |
yeah if Wreckloose had had new colours I'd have been all over that... the mold is great ... like a homage to Transmetal 2s but... BACKSTOP? sorry no
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Jan 17 2011, 11:27 PM
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 Herald of Unicron Group: Citizen Posts: 708 Joined: 18-January 03 From: Martinsville, VA Member No.: 1,986 Faction: Decepticon |
Wreckloose always remided me of a Beast Wars Basic.
As far as what line they belong to: I was under the impression that Hasbro was replacing "Transformers" with RtS. But since these 3 have no rubsigns, they do not fit into RtS. They are definately not Generations, as Generations has no Scout Class and "Generations" is not on the package. I keep a personal checklist that is catagorized by year, line and price point and I am dumping these 3 under RtS with an asterisk by their names. |
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Jan 18 2011, 01:20 AM
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Group: Citizen Posts: 1,617 Joined: 18-January 06 Member No.: 7,795 |
QUOTE(hardbot @ Jan 18 2011, 12:27 AM) Wreckloose always remided me of a Beast Wars Basic. As far as what line they belong to: I was under the impression that Hasbro was replacing "Transformers" with RtS. But since these 3 have no rubsigns, they do not fit into RtS. They are definately not Generations, as Generations has no Scout Class and "Generations" is not on the package. I keep a personal checklist that is catagorized by year, line and price point and I am dumping these 3 under RtS with an asterisk by their names. Actually, these would probably fall into the same category as the minicon repaints we got a few months ago http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product...amp;mode=retail More than likely, they are intended for "secondary markets" and won't appear at mass retail (unless Walmart gets a bunch in for a Christmas push like this year). If anything, I'd classify them as "non-traditional" releases and move on (especially before people here start arguing the schematics about the non-existent differences between TRansformers product lines) I AM a bit surprised to see Backstop get a new color set. My understanding was that these "dollar store" repacks were put together by what was available at whichever factory Hasbro was using when they needed to be made, but Backstop shows some development work went into him. That and the fact all three got new bios is very interesting. |
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Jan 18 2011, 02:48 AM
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 Grumble grumble complain grouse. Group: Citizen Posts: 3,003 Joined: 27-May 07 Member No.: 10,262 Faction: Decepticon |
Heh. Undermine undermines.
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Jan 18 2011, 06:10 AM
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Doubt them. Question them. Suspect them. Group: Citizen Posts: 40,935 Joined: 10-October 03 From: England Member No.: 3,679 |
QUOTE(hardbot @ Jan 18 2011, 04:27 AM) Wreckloose always remided me of a Beast Wars Basic. Is it too much to hope for actual Beast Wars basics? |
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Jan 18 2011, 07:12 AM
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President of the Deflowering Club Group: News and Content Posts: 41,385 Joined: 26-April 02 Member No.: 905 Faction: RIRFIB |
Yes they're long gone.
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Jan 18 2011, 08:45 AM
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 God of a Thousand Forms Group: Citizen Posts: 22,865 Joined: 26-February 06 From: Tartarus Member No.: 7,941 |
Yay, Undermine is back!
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