 Jose Lopez breaks news on TF: Prime, Hooo, boy. |
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 Jul 18 2010, 01:36 PM
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 Riveting tale, chap. Group: Citizen Posts: 6,845 Joined: 8-September 08 From: Florida Member No.: 11,979 Faction: Free Agent  |
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QUOTE About two weeks ago we announced the San Diego Comic-Con 2010 Transformers: Prime schedule. And on that schedule, we learned that the talent behind the upcoming cartoon will be there to meet us. One such person is Jose Lopez; the Character Designer of Transformers: Prime. Till now Mr. Lopez was in a silence about his involvement. Now however, he has updated his blog to let us know that he’ll be at the SDCC2010 to give us a sneak peek of his work. "Hi everyone! Comic-con is just around the corner and this year its arriving with a big Bang! Late last year I started designing and art directing characters for the new TRANSFORMERS - PRIME show and we finally get to share a very cool sneak peek of what we got in the works. So please come to the panel, hang with us and let me know what you think of our new show. I'll post more info as I'm permitted but trust me this is truly an all star team. Also I'll be at my regular spot Table H9 in the small press area sharing my table with the amazing John Nevarez. Stop by and say hi, don't be shy, ask people around, I don't bite I believe John doesn't either, so you really have no excuse. I hope to see you there. I'll be back with more info. Lopez" Mr. Lopez also kindly told us what exactly we will find and who we will meet at this year's Comic-Con. 4:30-5:30 Transformers Prime on The Hub— The talent behind Transformers Prime, the new TV series from Hasbro Studios featuring a groundbreaking mix of 2D animation and CGI, will showcase exclusive footage and characters followed by a Q & A session in this can't miss panel! Panelists include Executive Producers Bob Orci, Alex Kurtzman, and Jeff Kline, along with the voice of Optimus Prime himself, Peter Cullen, and President and CEO of The Hub, Margaret Loesch. Joining this all-star team on stage will be Executive Director, Boys & Action at Hasbro Studios, Mike Vogel, Supervising Director Dave Hartman, and Character Designer Jose Lopez with moderator Ted Biaselli, Director of Programming for The Hub. The Transformers Prime animated TV series will premiere in 2010 on the new television network The Hub. Room 7A Jose Lopez is the principal designer on Transformers: Prime. His previous credits include character design work on Cartoon Network's Generator Rex, Warner Bros. Animation's Green Lantern: First Flight and The Batman, and Sony Pictures Television's Jackie Chan Adventures. If you want to check some samples of Mr. Lopez's previous work, Visit : World'sFinestOnline.com QUOTE featuring a groundbreaking mix of 2D animation and CGI QUOTE groundbreaking mix of 2D animation and CGI QUOTE mix of 2D animation and CGI EeeheeheeeheehHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-blitz.gif) -------------------- QUOTE(Stephen Colbert) Good night, America. I'll see you in your dreams. I'll be the insane clown hovering over your bed with a knife. |
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Jul 18 2010, 01:39 PM
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 See bottom for robot! Group: Citizen Posts: 4,011 Joined: 21-December 01 Member No.: 41 |
For Transformers it'll be "groundbreaking" if the combination doesn't look like crap.
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Jul 18 2010, 01:44 PM
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 Why mess with a good thing? Group: Citizen Posts: 20,225 Joined: 24-January 04 From: Nebraska Member No.: 4,016 Faction: Autobot |
Well, at least from the standpoint of Energon, the standard can only go up.
I hope. -------------------- All that I'm after is a life full of Laughter
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Jul 18 2010, 01:56 PM
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 Ah, what the heck. What is in a name? Group: Citizen Posts: 5,220 Joined: 27-November 03 From: Sweden, Gävle Member No.: 3,970 Faction: Autobot |
It stills baffles me how Energon managed to be one year younger than Machine Robo Rescue and still fail CGI so hard.
Anyway. It can work. Clone Wars-like CGI with well textured backdrops. Same designers for both the TFs and humans to tie them together stylishly. Good face rigs. Wait and see before you react all silly. -------------------- |
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Jul 18 2010, 02:04 PM
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Riveting tale, chap. Group: Citizen Posts: 6,845 Joined: 8-September 08 From: Florida Member No.: 11,979 Faction: Free Agent |
Plus, there's the fact that the designs for this show are a lot sleeker and less boxy than Energon. One of Energon's problems is that the CGI models werre far too boxy to move convincingly. Cybertron rememdied this somewhat with sleeker designs, but... It seems Hasbro's trying to make the CG for this show really good.
-------------------- QUOTE(Stephen Colbert) Good night, America. I'll see you in your dreams. I'll be the insane clown hovering over your bed with a knife. |
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Jul 18 2010, 02:09 PM
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See bottom for robot! Group: Citizen Posts: 4,011 Joined: 21-December 01 Member No.: 41 |
Who's silly? I'm definitely not saying it's going to be terrible simply by virtue of blending 2D and CGI. It's just that the Transformers history of this mix has been a little short on that all important "blend" point. Energon COULD have looked great if it'd had a CGI budget higher than "two guys in a garage". Like you point out, good face rigs will go a heck of a long way, also characters that can move in a convincingly natural way.
(also if they use cel-shaded CGI, remembering to push the "scale" button will be good too.) --------------------
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Jul 18 2010, 02:14 PM
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 Finally went off the deep end. Group: Citizen Posts: 7,951 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Pangaea Member No.: 4,189 Faction: Free Agent |
This is a good thing, really. If they do the same thing they did in Galaxy Force, with the TF's themselves being the only things in CGI, it will get around the limits of both CGI and traditional cell animation.
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Jul 18 2010, 02:31 PM
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Group: Citizen Posts: 1,276 Joined: 31-January 04 From: Ct. USA Member No.: 4,093 |
It's hard to get past just how bad most shows that have attempted this mix before have been, especially Energon. Add to that that it's being done by folks that have apparently never done a cartoon before and... eee... Hope stuff looks good on Thurs. Well Hasbro's putting enough effort behind it. They clearly want Prime to be big. That's something in its favor at least. -------------------- |
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Jul 18 2010, 02:37 PM
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Riveting tale, chap. Group: Citizen Posts: 6,845 Joined: 8-September 08 From: Florida Member No.: 11,979 Faction: Free Agent |
QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Jul 18 2010, 03:31 PM)  It's hard to get past just how bad most shows that have attempted this mix before have been, especially Energon. Add to that that it's being done by folks that have apparently never done a cartoon before and... eee... Hope stuff looks good on Thurs. Well Hasbro's putting enough effort behind it. They clearly want Prime to be There ya go! -------------------- QUOTE(Stephen Colbert) Good night, America. I'll see you in your dreams. I'll be the insane clown hovering over your bed with a knife. |
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Jul 18 2010, 03:00 PM
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 Devestator: Doesn’t… EVER… stop! Group: Citizen Posts: 36,723 Joined: 10-October 03 From: England Member No.: 3,679 Faction: Cannonball's Pirate Crew |
Its bad writing and dull dubbing that ruined Energon for me. I wouldn't have minded the animation being what it was if it had been an entertaining story to watch with enthusiastic appropriate voice acting.
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Jul 18 2010, 03:19 PM
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Finally went off the deep end. Group: Citizen Posts: 7,951 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Pangaea Member No.: 4,189 Faction: Free Agent |
QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Jul 18 2010, 04:30 PM) Its bad writing and dull dubbing that ruined Energon for me. I wouldn't have minded the animation being what it was if it had been an entertaining story to watch with enthusiastic appropriate voice acting. Why do people keep bringing up Energon? We've seen what Prime Bumblebee looks like, it's obvious from his appearance that the CGI will be like Cybertron's, only better. |
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Jul 18 2010, 03:46 PM
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 Group: Citizen Posts: 2,024 Joined: 31-March 08 From: Some trashpile in Germany Member No.: 11,484 Faction: Free Agent |
Promo render doesn't equal show still.
Anyway, it can be done, and it can be done well. May I point to Futurame for good uses of CGI in conjuction with drawings? (Although, of course, CGI is used sparingly there.) |
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Jul 18 2010, 03:51 PM
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Ah, what the heck. What is in a name? Group: Citizen Posts: 5,220 Joined: 27-November 03 From: Sweden, Gävle Member No.: 3,970 Faction: Autobot |
QUOTE Who's silly? I was meaning in general. No specific person. -------------------- |
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Jul 18 2010, 03:54 PM
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Finally went off the deep end. Group: Citizen Posts: 7,951 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Pangaea Member No.: 4,189 Faction: Free Agent |
QUOTE(Creature SH @ Jul 18 2010, 05:16 PM) Promo render doesn't equal show still. ...Why wouldn't they use BB's actual animation model for the promo? |
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Jul 18 2010, 03:58 PM
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 almost back to normal Group: Citizen Posts: 12,760 Joined: 17-January 03 From: Canada Member No.: 1,958 Faction: Decepticon |
because they're trying to SELL it... just like they use photoshop on the boxart (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-primal.gif)
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Jul 18 2010, 04:05 PM
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 Not Cybertron Metroplex or Mudflap Group: Citizen Posts: 2,871 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Coppell, TX Member No.: 7,220 Faction: Free Agent |
QUOTE(ExVee @ Jul 18 2010, 02:09 PM) Who's silly? I'm definitely not saying it's going to be terrible simply by virtue of blending 2D and CGI. It's just that the Transformers history of this mix has been a little short on that all important "blend" point. Energon COULD have looked great if it'd had a CGI budget higher than "two guys in a garage". Like you point out, good face rigs will go a heck of a long way, also characters that can move in a convincingly natural way. (also if they use cel-shaded CGI, remembering to push the "scale" button will be good too.) Also, keep in mind that the average US produced cartoon has at least twice the per-episode budget of the average Japanese production. And the same goes for the production time as well. -------------------- QUOTE(Hasbro) Paramount Home Entertainment will be releasing RANSFORMERS CYBERTRON on 9.13.05  |
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Jul 18 2010, 04:21 PM
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I wonder if it'll be like, CGI animation with 2d parts for more actiony scenes or 2d humans with 3d robots.
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Jul 18 2010, 04:27 PM
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 This Title Section Needs To Be Longer Group: Citizen Posts: 2,628 Joined: 9-February 02 Member No.: 628 |
As long as the characters and storyline are strong and enjoyable, the animation style really doesn't matter all that much.
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Jul 18 2010, 04:31 PM
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Riveting tale, chap. Group: Citizen Posts: 6,845 Joined: 8-September 08 From: Florida Member No.: 11,979 Faction: Free Agent |
I admit, the only reason I overacted is because of the previous track record when it comes to TFs and CG meets Hand-drawn. I'm betting it'll be done well, since the only thing that's really had me apprehensive about TF: Prime so far is Welker as Megatron.
-------------------- QUOTE(Stephen Colbert) Good night, America. I'll see you in your dreams. I'll be the insane clown hovering over your bed with a knife. |
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Jul 18 2010, 05:08 PM
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 Problematic. Group: Citizen Posts: 4,485 Joined: 13-January 02 Member No.: 315 |
And it's being animated in Japan on top of everything else!
As for the people doing the actual CGI...well... This post has been edited by Sprocket: Jul 18 2010, 05:08 PM -------------------- Derrick Wyatt is the single greatest thing to happen to Transformers design ever.
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