Herr Baron is "Divebomb"?, Unless it makes more sense on a Bike, Forklift or Off-Road vehicle Options

[NightViper]

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product...amp;mode=retail

BBTS' breakdown for Scout wave 2, 2010

1x Skystalker
1x Scattorshot
1x Divebomb

[ZacWilliam1]

Hmm... kinda a really boring name for an awesome looking figure. I still want him of course, but something a little more creative, fun, and memorable would have been really neat. Ah well.

[Echowarrior]

Divebomb, eh?

Hmm...I'll probably get him. No clue how Hasbro will reconcile ROTF Divebomb with Movie1 Divebomb, but I doubt that matters much to their lawyers.

[Razorsaw]

Divebomb, eh?

Hmm...I'll probably get him. No clue how Hasbro will reconcile ROTF Divebomb with Movie1 Divebomb, but I doubt that matters much to their lawyers.

My name is Jim.

I am not the only one named Jim.

There, reconciled.

[Lukeblast]

No clue how Hasbro will reconcile ROTF Divebomb with Movie1 Divebomb, but I doubt that matters much to their lawyers.

Who says that toy-only characters from the first movie mean anything to toy-only characters from the second movie? Didn't we already get an Armorhide and an Evac too? Heck, we have two Dead Ends in ROTF.

And keep in mind that movie characters have been known to spontaneously change bodies in the Movies. Megatron, Frenzy, and Bumblebee all did it in different ways, and now Bludgeon is doing it.

This post has been edited by Lukeblast: Nov 3 2009, 06:54 PM

[mignash]

There was another jet scout in the April 2009 Walmart computer listing besides Ransack, the the other "biplane" and Skystalker. Divebomb may not be the biplane.

TRA SCOUT SPORTS CA (6-53569-45030) Nightbeat? Wildrider?
TRA SCOUT DEL VAN (6-53569-45031) Wideload?
TRA MV2 SCOUT BOAT (6-53569-45032) Sonar?
TRA MV2 SCOUT AIRCR (6-53569-46314) Unknown?
TRA MV2 SCOUT BI-PL (6-53569-46316) "red baron"
TRA MV2 SCOUT JET (6-53569-46313) Skystalker?
TRA ROLLBAR (6-53569-38559) Rollbar
TRA DEAD END (6-53569-38560) Dead End
TRA KNOCK OUT (6-53569-38561) - Knockout
TRA DIRT BOSS (6-53569-38562) - Dirt Boss
TRA DEPTH CHARGE (6-53569-40077) - Depth Charge
TRA RANSACK (6-53569-40076) -- Ransack


This post has been edited by mignash: Nov 3 2009, 03:39 PM

[chiasaur11]

Divebomb, eh?

Hmm...I'll probably get him. No clue how Hasbro will reconcile ROTF Divebomb with Movie1 Divebomb, but I doubt that matters much to their lawyers.

My name is Jim.

I am not the only one named Jim.

There, reconciled.

Hey, Jim, long time no see.

I've been watching the Office, and you were on it. You looked different, though. New haircut?

[maximus prime3]

i'm naming the new biplane "Baron Von Joy" no matter what

[mignash]

Divebomb, eh?

Hmm...I'll probably get him. No clue how Hasbro will reconcile ROTF Divebomb with Movie1 Divebomb, but I doubt that matters much to their lawyers.

You see, it's an obscure G1 Marvel UK homage! One of them was originally called Divebomb, the other wanted the name, so they fought over it. The looser has to change his name to Swoop.

BTW - I might go for the red Decepticon Knockout redeco as Scooter even if he is a Decepticon, as there was an episode where Scooter turned evil on the Gobots.

This post has been edited by mignash: Nov 3 2009, 06:07 PM

[Dvandom]

What, Reverb? That's already a Gobot homage, to Dart.

---Dave

[Octavius Prime]

Divebomb is a fine name for me. My movie 1 Divebomb is UT Divebomb to me, so no big deal. And since I'm considering both Ransack and this red repaint are Seekers (in the conventional sense, not the ROTF meaning) and Walmart Divebomb is a Seeker, it works out nicely.

[mignash]

What, Reverb? That's already a Gobot homage, to Dart.

---Dave

No, the ALL RED repaint (if he comes out):

Mystery bike:
(IMG:http://i34.tinypic.com/288xc7l.jpg)

Gobots Scooter:
(IMG:http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h214/Scaleface/Gobot%20Toys/scooter2.jpg)

[Lukeblast]

What, Reverb? That's already a Gobot homage, to Dart.

---Dave

It seems that's only a coincidence and he's actually a BW Inferno homage.

If he was intentionally a dual homage, nobody's fessed up to it yet.

This post has been edited by Lukeblast: Nov 3 2009, 06:58 PM

[Guard Convoy]

I don't see Dart in Reverb, really. They don't even share the same number.

[Hornet]

My name is Jim.

I am not the only one named Jim.

There, reconciled.

But in the 5 years G1 lasted, not once did Hasbro ever give two TF's the same name unless they were the same character. That establishes precedent.

Plus you never see other toylines give two different characters the same name unless they are the same person.

This post has been edited by Hornet: Nov 3 2009, 07:31 PM

[Sakuya Izayoi]

But G2 threw changed that, and it totally went out the window with Beast Wars.

So we've now had a longer span of time of name reuses than consistently keeping the same name for the same character.

[Hornet]

So we've now had a longer span of time of name reuses than consistently keeping the same name for the same character.

But you don't see other toylines give the same name to two completely different characters.

[Sakuya Izayoi]

Most other toy lines are either based in a pre-existing property, or don't have to worry as much about holding on to names though, don't they?

[ZacWilliam1]

My name is Jim.

I am not the only one named Jim.

There, reconciled.

But in the 5 years G1 lasted, not once did Hasbro ever give two TF's the same name unless they were the same character. That establishes precedent.

UNTRUE.

See Sky High the Pretender and Sky High the Micromaster, or Lightspeed the Technobot and Lightspeed the Motivator.

[Octavius Prime]

Also, if you consider Armada and Energon to be part of a larger UT toyline, there's two Prowls - the minicon (who showed up twice in Armada and once in Universe) and the deluxe (who showed up twice in Energon).

At any rate, I guess it boils down to name reuse for tradmark purposes. 2 Divebombs over the course of two years (2208 and, presumably, 2010) really isn't that bad.