 I am dissapointed in TV Tropes., No burning courage?! |
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 Aug 15 2009, 09:52 PM
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 Group: Citizen Posts: 7,335 Joined: 22-February 03 From: Toccoa Ga. Member No.: 2,358 Faction: Maximal  |
Seriously.. I was searching through TV tropes and didn't find anything on burning courage!
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Aug 15 2009, 09:54 PM
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 God of a Thousand Forms Group: Citizen Posts: 22,478 Joined: 26-February 06 From: Tartarus Member No.: 7,941 |
I steer clear of TVTropes.
I feel that linking to someone else's writing on a subject instead of forming your own opinion is kinda detrimental to being a critic. Sure, there are tones of stereotypes and stuff, but overcategorization is the death of fun stories. So I ignore TVTrope links. -------------------- Don't fail to see Nyarlathotep if he comes to Providence. He is horrible — horrible beyond anything you can imagine — but wonderful. He haunts one for hours afterward. I am still shuddering at what he showed. |
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Aug 15 2009, 10:10 PM
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The Audacity of Chop Group: Citizen Posts: 12,082 Joined: 28-May 04 Member No.: 4,587 |
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Aug 15 2009, 11:27 PM
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 IT'S AN ESSER Group: Citizen Posts: 30,084 Joined: 13-April 04 From: Findlay, OH. Member No.: 4,424 Faction: Free Agent |
QUOTE(∀Hime∀ @ Aug 15 2009, 10:54 PM)  I steer clear of TVTropes. I feel that linking to someone else's writing on a subject instead of forming your own opinion is kinda detrimental to being a critic. Sure, there are tones of stereotypes and stuff, but overcategorization is the death of fun stories. So I ignore TVTrope links. You are dead to me. -------------------- |
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Aug 16 2009, 12:00 AM
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Group: Citizen Posts: 7,335 Joined: 22-February 03 From: Toccoa Ga. Member No.: 2,358 Faction: Maximal |
Better watch out... Esser-Z is about to go into Tranquil Fury!
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Aug 16 2009, 12:08 AM
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 Chopper Face 69  Group: Supporter Posts: 10,393 Joined: 6-March 03 From: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 2,450 Faction: Lesbian Ninja |
hug TV Tropes. Just overanalyzing stuff for no reason. Everything's been done in some fashion, especially when you overcategorise it. Just because something fits into some vague definition of a cliche (even something extremely rare is a cliche on Tropes...) doesn't make it bad. I pity any writer who tries to avoid the prat falls of TV tropes.
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Aug 16 2009, 01:41 AM
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 Homini lupus Group: Citizen Posts: 5,113 Joined: 15-August 02 From: Irvine, CA Member No.: 1,336 |
I don't think the point of TVTropes is to call something bad. A common theme doesn't have to be hackneyed or cliché, but I think it's fun to notice them anyway.
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Aug 16 2009, 02:11 AM
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 True Blue Heroes Group: Citizen Posts: 24,492 Joined: 12-January 02 Member No.: 280 |
They SAY ON THEIR SITE that tropes aren't cliches.
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Aug 16 2009, 02:13 AM
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 Pose as a team, because JIVE JUST GOT REAL Group: Citizen Posts: 5,678 Joined: 4-September 05 From: Essex, Ol'Blighty Member No.: 7,242 Faction: RIBFIR |
QUOTE(aDam @ Aug 16 2009, 06:08 AM) doesn't make it bad. Which is pretty much the same opinion as TVTropes. They just list them. -------------------- QUOTE(Galenraff @ Mar 13 2008, 02:10 PM) You don't buy a Porsche *just* for how it looks, after all. It's got to perform, too. Maybe tie you up, if you're into that. "Pack up the tea, boys! We're joining the Space Marines!" |
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Aug 16 2009, 02:23 AM
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 Group: Citizen Posts: 2,060 Joined: 13-February 05 From: Texas Member No.: 6,007 |
QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Aug 16 2009, 02:11 AM) They SAY ON THEIR SITE that tropes aren't cliches. They also constantly mention that tropes aren't bad. Writing something without using any of the tropes on TV Tropes would be like cooking without ingredients. -------------------- |
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Aug 16 2009, 02:31 AM
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 Group: Citizen Posts: 4,404 Joined: 21-January 09 From: Boccopolis Member No.: 12,241 Faction: Free Agent |
Personally, I think the idea of "TV tropes" cheapens the whole creative field by trying to categorize every little thing. Even if it does seem to be taken to extreme levels of self-parody.
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Aug 16 2009, 02:35 AM
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God of a Thousand Forms Group: Citizen Posts: 22,478 Joined: 26-February 06 From: Tartarus Member No.: 7,941 |
The problem is when you get these people who come up to you and:
"Hey, that looks interesting." "Yeah, it's my favourite show!" "What's it about?" "Oh, this, and that, and this!" "Oh, sounds like a classic *TROPE* and *TROPE* with some *TROPE*" -------------------- Don't fail to see Nyarlathotep if he comes to Providence. He is horrible — horrible beyond anything you can imagine — but wonderful. He haunts one for hours afterward. I am still shuddering at what he showed. |
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Aug 16 2009, 02:41 AM
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 You humans are so weird. Group: Supporter Posts: 14,792 Joined: 30-March 04 From: 123 Carenden Road Member No.: 4,369 Faction: Cannonball's Pirate Crew |
QUOTE(aDam @ Aug 16 2009, 01:08 AM) hug TV Tropes. Just overanalyzing stuff for no reason. Everything's been done in some fashion, especially when you overcategorise it. Just because something fits into some vague definition of a cliche (even something extremely rare is a cliche on Tropes...) doesn't make it bad. I pity any writer who tries to avoid the prat falls of TV tropes. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TropesAreTools -------------------- QUOTE You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....  |
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Aug 16 2009, 04:24 AM
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 Cyber Key Power...linx! Group: Citizen Posts: 7,172 Joined: 14-January 02 Member No.: 355 |
Of course, some TropeRs are also tools. But that's true of anyone. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-fire.gif)
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Aug 16 2009, 04:47 AM
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 On his way to Jaburo Group: Citizen Posts: 8,359 Joined: 1-October 04 From: Land of the never rising sun, England Member No.: 5,090 Faction: Autobot |
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Aug 16 2009, 04:49 AM
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Pose as a team, because JIVE JUST GOT REAL Group: Citizen Posts: 5,678 Joined: 4-September 05 From: Essex, Ol'Blighty Member No.: 7,242 Faction: RIBFIR |
I honestly could not fail to disagree with you more.
Seems TVTropes is suffering form a bad case of Hype Backlash. This post has been edited by The Ambassador: Aug 16 2009, 04:51 AM -------------------- QUOTE(Galenraff @ Mar 13 2008, 02:10 PM) You don't buy a Porsche *just* for how it looks, after all. It's got to perform, too. Maybe tie you up, if you're into that. "Pack up the tea, boys! We're joining the Space Marines!" |
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Aug 16 2009, 04:55 AM
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On his way to Jaburo Group: Citizen Posts: 8,359 Joined: 1-October 04 From: Land of the never rising sun, England Member No.: 5,090 Faction: Autobot |
QUOTE(The Ambassador @ Aug 16 2009, 04:49 AM) I honestly could not fail to disagree with you more. Seems TVTropes is suffering form a bad case of Hype Backlash. Old joke is old. -------------------- |
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Aug 16 2009, 06:32 AM
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 The power of metal, unchained Group: Citizen Posts: 13,599 Joined: 25-January 04 From: South of Heaven, north of Hell Member No.: 4,035 Faction: Unicron's Spawn |
QUOTE(HellCat @ Aug 16 2009, 05:55 AM) QUOTE(The Ambassador @ Aug 16 2009, 04:49 AM) I honestly could not fail to disagree with you more. Seems TVTropes is suffering form a bad case of Hype Backlash. Old joke is old. They got that covered too. --------------------  |
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Aug 16 2009, 07:50 AM
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 Geekbot & Nerdicon Fangirl Group: Citizen Posts: 3,863 Joined: 18-March 09 From: Western Massachusetts Member No.: 12,366 Faction: RIBFIR |
I love TV Tropes. They basically take the analysis that all (script)writers worth their pay should be doing anyway and put it in clear easy-to-read wiki format. It's like Cliff Notes for the process of writing.
Plus it's fun going through their "Crowning Moment of" and "Nightmare Fuel" pages as a way to remember those, er, memorable scenes in various stories and discover new stories. Plus their "Wild Mass Guessing" pages are shrines of entertaining self-aware fanwank. |
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Aug 16 2009, 08:05 AM
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 Group: Citizen Posts: 469 Joined: 8-September 07 From: Singapore Member No.: 10,837 Faction: Autobot |
Crowning Music is a great way to share good songs by name (and youtube links). I'm a troper, and all I can say is Overdosing On TV Tropes Will Ruin Your Life.
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