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 Sep 30 2008, 12:55 PM
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http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/c...trooper-165915/
So can a Star Wars fan help me out here? Who or what is that Imperial Trooper head based on? It looks like a mix of Clone Commander Bacara's, and a Snow Trooper's helmet. --------------------  |
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Sep 30 2008, 12:58 PM
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 Dragon Kick your ass into the Milky Way! Group: Citizen Posts: 5,839 Joined: 30-March 04 From: Montreal Member No.: 4,369 Faction: Autobot |
That second guy... his altmode is from the original trilogy, but where's his head from?
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Sep 30 2008, 01:23 PM
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 Where is the seal? Group: Citizen Posts: 2,702 Joined: 14-June 02 Member No.: 1,104 |
I'm going to guess it's a heavily stylized Snowtrooper head. Nothing else really makes sense.
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Sep 30 2008, 01:28 PM
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 Back to Basics Group: Citizen Posts: 17,343 Joined: 24-January 04 From: Nebraska Member No.: 4,016 Faction: Autobot |
Yeah, looks like a Snowtrooper Helmet...with red eyes.
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Sep 30 2008, 04:33 PM
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 NERV Wants YOU! Group: Citizen Posts: 3,774 Joined: 14-September 06 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,919 Faction: Maximal |
Looks like a very heavily modified snowtrooper mask. I've never seen anything that looks quite like that.
THough I do like how he appears to have upward-slanted eyebrows. He knows he's gonna die horribly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-fire.gif) --------------------  |
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Sep 30 2008, 05:12 PM
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 I'm back!!!!! Group: Citizen Posts: 250 Joined: 21-July 08 From: Canada Member No.: 11,833 Faction: Decepticon |
I like the AT-ATs walker mode but the robot isnt so cool.
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Sep 30 2008, 05:46 PM
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 Purveyor of Evil. And Physics. Group: Citizen Posts: 8,227 Joined: 22-December 01 From: Manhattan, KS Member No.: 89 Faction: Autobot |
Wow, looks like a bad kitbash attempt at a snowtrooper head mod or something. I'll be passing on that particular remold.
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Sep 30 2008, 06:02 PM
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Group: News Manager Posts: 14,653 Joined: 12-January 02 From: Buffalo, NY Member No.: 268 Faction: Free Agent |
QUOTE(Dvandom @ Sep 30 2008, 06:46 PM)  ---Dave, got General Grievous (starfighter) and TIE Pilot (TIE Bomber) today. So how's the bomber? As interesting as the original images made him out to be? This post has been edited by NightViper: Sep 30 2008, 06:02 PM -------------------- |
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Sep 30 2008, 06:17 PM
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 LISTEN TO THE VOICE OF DOOM Group: Citizen Posts: 7,848 Joined: 26-June 02 Member No.: 1,143 |
Actually.... I'm wondering, since that's more like plant matter markings on the vehicle, not snow... if that's supposed to be an AT-ST pilot from Return of the Jedi.
Or I suppose it could be a stylized Clone Commander Bacara or whoever helmet, they have the flaps on the sides. Maybe they've pulled the design from one of those "middle period" tales, post-Order-66 but before the events of "A New Hope". Maybe it's something from Force Unleashed. M "AT-ATs Aren't JUST Used On Hoth... Hell, There's One On Endor In 'Jedi'" Sipher -------------------- http://www.tfwiki.net - Crisis on Infinite Prowls
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Sep 30 2008, 06:58 PM
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Purveyor of Evil. And Physics. Group: Citizen Posts: 8,227 Joined: 22-December 01 From: Manhattan, KS Member No.: 89 Faction: Autobot |
I haven't transformed the bomber yet, but it suffers from a design that needed a LOT better tolerances to stay together in vehicle mode. Grievous is an improvement over the original SWTF Grievous, but that's not a difficult feat. And the massive amount of ship kibble is made to look like his cloak, more or less.
---Dave, taking a break from the SWTFs to review bonus content on the Wal-Mart exclusive Iron Man DVD two-pack. Edit: Okay, transformed the TIE Bomber. There's a lot of loose, floppy vehicle kibble, notably on the back and heels. The solar panels are attached to the forearms rather than the upper arms, so it's hard to get them out of the way. The hands are tiny. Those issues aside, it looks pretty good and the core parts hold together well enough. This post has been edited by Dvandom: Sep 30 2008, 07:18 PM --------------------
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Sep 30 2008, 08:04 PM
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I'd say that they're not really trying anymore, but that would imply that they ever did.
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Sep 30 2008, 08:08 PM
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Group: Citizen Posts: 1,785 Joined: 13-May 06 Member No.: 8,260 Faction: Decepticon |
I want a couple TIE Bombers. Greivous is okay, I might get him but I doubt it. That new AT-AT looks horrible, the 1st one looked pretty bad but they managed to make it look even worse. And the black Emperor looks like a bad fan custom.
QUOTE(TheTurnipKing @ Sep 30 2008, 08:04 PM) I'd say that they're not really trying anymore, but that would imply that they ever did. C'mon man, you gotta give them some credit. Death Star Vader is awesome! A little too small but still awesome. I love that thing. This post has been edited by Rippersnapper: Sep 30 2008, 08:12 PM |
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Sep 30 2008, 08:25 PM
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 The Freakabus! Group: Citizen Posts: 4,431 Joined: 10-October 05 From: The shores of Lake Eerie Member No.: 7,425 Faction: Autobot |
QUOTE(TheTurnipKing @ Sep 30 2008, 09:04 PM) I'd say that they're not really trying anymore, but that would imply that they ever did. TTK They've been trying and succeeding all along, but as Transformers fans we can't see it. Somebody keeps buying the toys, or they wouldn't have lasted several years already. This would not have happened if they were just a gimmicky thing like Ops and Megs turning into SW craft. I think they have also succeeded "artistically" as well as commercially, in a way we can't always see. They have tailored the aesthetic to the different franchise. These are vehicles that turn into robots that resemble their pilots, but which are also influenced by SW droid styling. You can REALLY see this in the AT-AT, and that one always seems to sell quickly. This seems to be the same course Hasbro is following with the Marvel Crossovers, which have a heavily comic-influenced aesthetic. --------------------  Geocities is dead! R. I. P. But you can still see the Blurry Robot Theater - Last updated 11/20/09 - "Heartbreakers." Click here for the JaAmin' Transformers wiki! Looks like the Takaratomy was a failure. - Nevermore Using the bathroom during a commercial is IP theft! |
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Sep 30 2008, 08:32 PM
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Group: Citizen Posts: 1,785 Joined: 13-May 06 Member No.: 8,260 Faction: Decepticon |
QUOTE(Autobus Prime @ Sep 30 2008, 08:25 PM) QUOTE(TheTurnipKing @ Sep 30 2008, 09:04 PM) I'd say that they're not really trying anymore, but that would imply that they ever did. TTK They've been trying and succeeding all along, but as Transformers fans we can't see it. Somebody keeps buying the toys, or they wouldn't have lasted several years already. This would not have happened if they were just a gimmicky thing like Ops and Megs turning into SW craft. I think they have also succeeded "artistically" as well as commercially, in a way we can't always see. They have tailored the aesthetic to the different franchise. These are vehicles that turn into robots that resemble their pilots, but which are also influenced by SW droid styling. You can REALLY see this in the AT-AT, and that one always seems to sell quickly. This seems to be the same course Hasbro is following with the Marvel Crossovers, which have a heavily comic-influenced aesthetic. Good! If it's a success then bring on M.A.S.K. & GI Joe!!! |
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Sep 30 2008, 08:36 PM
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Purveyor of Evil. And Physics. Group: Citizen Posts: 8,227 Joined: 22-December 01 From: Manhattan, KS Member No.: 89 Faction: Autobot |
FWIW, I'm far enough along to rate both as Mildly Recommended (still working on details). The TIE Bomber actually LOOKS good, but like Classics Galvatron needs significantly better engineering tolerances to make the ambitious design work. Or at least a few more pegs. Grievous, on the other hand, is a shellformer that never really aspires to be more. It's okay, but too backpacky.
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Sep 30 2008, 09:33 PM
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Group: Citizen Posts: 283 Joined: 11-July 08 Member No.: 11,807 Faction: Unicron's Spawn |
Compared to the Marvel Crossover figures, the Star Wars stuff have been very unimpressive with rather ugly robot modes. I may get the Storm Trooper just for the AT-AT mode, but that is still daughtful.
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Sep 30 2008, 11:34 PM
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I believe that head is one of Ralph McQuarrie's concept designs for the original Stormtrooper. I know I've seen it before, and that's the only thing I can think of offhand.
If not, then it's probably just their interpretation of a snowtrooper. -------------------- Update them bookmarks! Transformers Wiki has moved to www.tfwiki.net! Lord Imperious Delirious demands it!
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Oct 1 2008, 01:06 AM
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 Newhalf Newtype Group: Citizen Posts: 65 Joined: 22-February 08 From: Smithtown, NY Member No.: 11,390 |
QUOTE(M Sipher @ Sep 30 2008, 07:17 PM) Actually.... I'm wondering, since that's more like plant matter markings on the vehicle, not snow... if that's supposed to be an AT-ST pilot from Return of the Jedi. Yeah, I'd go with that.... especially because that's "forest moon of Endor" greenery rubbed all over it. So like you said, it's that one AT-AT from RoTJ that really doesn't do much (other than transport Luke to the landing station where he meets Vader). Anyways, this is my favorite SW TF headsculpt so far. ^_^ |
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Oct 1 2008, 09:05 AM
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 Autobot Rainbow Brigade Group: Citizen Posts: 970 Joined: 3-June 04 From: Charlotte NC Member No.: 4,622 Faction: Autobot |
Can someone post a link to images of the TIE bomber and Grevious? Even the Hasbro site doesn't list them.
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Oct 3 2008, 04:46 PM
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 Now where did I leave that darn key! Group: Citizen Posts: 3,055 Joined: 22-October 03 From: Northeast, Pennsylvania Member No.: 3,770 Faction: Autobot |
QUOTE(Dvandom @ Sep 30 2008, 09:36 PM) FWIW, I'm far enough along to rate both as Mildly Recommended (still working on details). The TIE Bomber actually LOOKS good, but like Classics Galvatron needs significantly better engineering tolerances to make the ambitious design work. Or at least a few more pegs. Grievous, on the other hand, is a shellformer that never really aspires to be more. It's okay, but too backpacky. ---Dave Dave, did your Tie Bomber come with a pilot? I have mine opened up and transformed and I can't find the pilot anywhere. There's no picture of him on the box or in the instructions either, and I can't be certain that there's a placement for him in the plastic tray too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-screamer.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-screamer.gif) |
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