 WIP: Energon Menasor, Idea stage is done. Building stage is go. |
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 Sep 14 2008, 10:31 PM
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 "One down, two to go." Group: Citizen Posts: 7,960 Joined: 6-May 03 From: New York Member No.: 2,807 Faction: Free Agent  |
cool concept.
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Sep 14 2008, 11:36 PM
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 kickin' it old school Group: Citizen Posts: 10,372 Joined: 19-January 02 Member No.: 431 |
So I finally found a place that sells styrene in my area. I bought two small sheets of 1mm, some rods and some white putty. A lot of my measurements are off, but it will do for a first attempt. I am going to continue building this piece as a tutorial for myself on working with styrene and then I will go back and take acurate measurements and begin the process again. Here is the start of the chest piece.
(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/dancouga/energon%20menasor/0915080026.jpg) and then off of the body (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/dancouga/energon%20menasor/0915080026a.jpg) and next to the original. (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/dancouga/energon%20menasor/0915080026b.jpg) So far, the only down time is the waiting for the white putty to set. This is a relatively easy and forgiving material to work with. I will keep everyone posted. I am still working to incorporate the original stunticons heads with the Noh masks. I will post sketches once they are done. Also, this is going to be my first time casting. I plan to sculpt the heads at double-three times intended size, cast them, hydroshrink them and then cast them again. I will be going tomorrow to pick up a mat cutter and some of the styrene bars I saw. I am also going to look for something that works quicker than white putty. |
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Sep 15 2008, 08:24 AM
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hydroshrink. that some kind of hydro span reverse process?
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Sep 15 2008, 08:51 AM
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kickin' it old school Group: Citizen Posts: 10,372 Joined: 19-January 02 Member No.: 431 |
Pretty much. You use a water mix when you cast the part and the water evaporates shrinking the piece. There is also Reducit and Reducit II.
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Sep 15 2008, 07:03 PM
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kickin' it old school Group: Citizen Posts: 10,372 Joined: 19-January 02 Member No.: 431 |
Ok. So white putty is crap. It held fast through the night, but just touching the pieces today caused them to crumble. I bought some testor's styrene instant bond substance today. Hopefully it works better.
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Sep 16 2008, 07:47 AM
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kickin' it old school Group: Citizen Posts: 10,372 Joined: 19-January 02 Member No.: 431 |
So the new instant bond adhesive stuff is great. Sets in a few seconds and is ready to be sanded in a matter of minutes. Holds very strong as well. I started working on the nose area of the chest piece. I'm not sure if I like the shap of the face. It reminds me of something, but I can't think what.
(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/dancouga/energon%20menasor/0916080819.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/dancouga/energon%20menasor/0916080819a.jpg) Doesn't look demonic enough for me...Maybe the eyebrows and sunken eyes will change that. |
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Sep 16 2008, 11:28 AM
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 Professional pain-in-the-ass Group: Citizen Posts: 3,782 Joined: 7-March 03 From: Sioux Falls, SD Member No.: 2,464 Faction: Autobot |
so.... he's not unlike a gunmen.
It shall be interesting to see how it'll work out. -------------------- |
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Sep 16 2008, 11:36 AM
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kickin' it old school Group: Citizen Posts: 10,372 Joined: 19-January 02 Member No.: 431 |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-depth.gif) Like the lone gunmen? Can he be Langly?
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Sep 16 2008, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(DanHibiki @ Sep 16 2008, 11:36 AM)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-depth.gif) Like the lone gunmen? Can he be Langly? Think... Bigger. And Punchier. With more hot blooded. -------------------- |
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Sep 16 2008, 01:56 PM
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kickin' it old school Group: Citizen Posts: 10,372 Joined: 19-January 02 Member No.: 431 |
Like a blind dog, I'm not following...
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Sep 16 2008, 02:22 PM
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what is this "instant-bond" you speak of? is it thin as water and bonds the styrene?
I usually been using zap-a-gap, good stuff, and the flow control nozzle makes adhesion clean and precise. You should look into some Superglue's Plastic Fusion, it comes in a duel apoxy applicator, best stuff I've used to date, stronger than JB weld. This stuff actually bonds to the plastic and it's thick it gets messy, but is easy to carve into and sand. -------------------- |
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Sep 16 2008, 03:07 PM
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kickin' it old school Group: Citizen Posts: 10,372 Joined: 19-January 02 Member No.: 431 |
The instant bond is Testor's Plastic something-something. It has a needle like tip that leaves perfect beads. It actually melts the styrene slightly and leaves really smooth joints. I will look at the bottle when I get home and let you know.
As for epoxy, I usually use Devcon Plastic Welder. It bonds like magic, but sands easy enough. I'll have to post some of the "completed" projects I've used it on. |
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Sep 16 2008, 05:29 PM
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kickin' it old school Group: Citizen Posts: 10,372 Joined: 19-January 02 Member No.: 431 |
Model Masters Liquid Cement for Plastic Models. It'll get you drunk!
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Sep 16 2008, 06:37 PM
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 But can I weaponize it? That's the important thing.  Group: Supporter Posts: 17,226 Joined: 3-May 05 From: In my pants! Member No.: 6,473 Faction: Cannonball's Pirate Crew |
Gunmen are the robots from Gurren Lagann, and most have the design of a head with arms and legs. Some have a second head on top, which kind of resembles what you've got going here.
(IMG:http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u288/callmewingus/Gurren_Lagann_-_Generic_Ganmen.jpg) I like the demon mask concept, but I'm not sure about it being applied to the Stunticons. However, I suppose all I can do is wait and see how it turns out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-hotrod.gif) -------------------- Want to buy or draw for a Kreon Springer, PM if interested.  I draw things, and you can buy them! deviantART | Tegaki |
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Sep 16 2008, 08:24 PM
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You need to try the plastic fusion, I found it held up a lot better than devcon's apoxy, and it's white.
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Sep 16 2008, 10:33 PM
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kickin' it old school Group: Citizen Posts: 10,372 Joined: 19-January 02 Member No.: 431 |
The design is actually one I have wanted to do for a while. I have this vision of panels opening exposing the innner demon face and just blasting the jive out of everything in front of the mouth. It is based on Bishamon, the werewolf from Vampire Hunter D and other demons I have seen. The masks should work out perfectly (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-hotrod.gif) Each mask fits the personality of the Stunticons pretty well.
F_R: I'll definitely give the plastic fusion a shot when it comes time to bond the styrene to the already cast bits. And just for everybody, I'll make some sunglasses for Menasor once he is done. And maybe give him a drill. I got the rough of the eyebrows done tonight. I'll post updates once the cheeks are in place. |
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Oct 6 2008, 06:07 PM
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kickin' it old school Group: Citizen Posts: 10,372 Joined: 19-January 02 Member No.: 431 |
Making some progress. I leveled up in styrene engineering.
(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/dancouga/energon%20menasor/1006081859.jpg) And size comparison. (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/dancouga/energon%20menasor/1006081859a.jpg) I hope to have the legs and feet done by the end of this month. |
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Oct 9 2008, 11:23 AM
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kickin' it old school Group: Citizen Posts: 10,372 Joined: 19-January 02 Member No.: 431 |
Still sketching out ideas...Nothing new
(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/dancouga/energon%20menasor/menasorsketch.jpg) |
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Dec 24 2008, 03:48 PM
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kickin' it old school Group: Citizen Posts: 10,372 Joined: 19-January 02 Member No.: 431 |
Making some progress. I'm hoping the holidays are going to be uneventful and I can actually work on this.
(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/dancouga/energon%20menasor/1224081510-1.jpg) |
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