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![]() Spooky. Group: Retired Staff Posts: 6,160 Joined: 22-December 01 From: Bay Area, CA Member No.: 87 Faction: Decepticon |
Beast Wars Sourcebook Issue #3 continues the tradition of the Sourcebook by being filled with errors. The most glaring one that I can find is that IDW let Frank Milkovich contribute his art.
There are some pretty silly things when it comes to the text, too. TM Rhinox is apparently a vok-created body that Rhinox uses to travel the multiverse post-BM, and Shadow Panther isn't Ravage but he's just like Ravage. Oh, and Ramulus is "even-tempered". I think IDW is just messing with us, now. This post has been edited by Spectre: Jan 5 2008, 12:29 AM -------------------- |
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![]() Novus ordo seclorum Group: Forum Moderator Posts: 41,335 Joined: 18-June 03 From: Westlake, OH Member No.: 3,012 Faction: RIBFIR |
QUOTE TM Rhinox is apparently a vok-created body that Rhinox uses to travel the multiverse post-BM (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-wildride.gif) That was seriously the best they could come up with? -------------------- ![]() |
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Employee Vigilante Group: Citizen Posts: 27,400 Joined: 12-January 02 From: Columbus, OH Member No.: 245 Faction: RIRFIB |
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![]() Spooky. Group: Retired Staff Posts: 6,160 Joined: 22-December 01 From: Bay Area, CA Member No.: 87 Faction: Decepticon |
It's also worth mentioning that this guy drew like 10 characters.
Meanwhile, no Nick Roche anywhere. -------------------- |
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![]() Novus ordo seclorum Group: Forum Moderator Posts: 41,335 Joined: 18-June 03 From: Westlake, OH Member No.: 3,012 Faction: RIBFIR |
Don't expect mercy Walky, after all they likely followed this
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Group: Citizen Posts: 893 Joined: 31-January 03 Member No.: 2,142 |
Ah, but while Ramulus is even-tempered, he can also be goated into rash action, as per his weaknesses. These might seem completely contradictory, but...um...nice picture.
Also, Ravage apparently transforms into a "name". It seems under the art for his cassette mode, someone forgot to take out the place-holder word "Name" and replace it with the actual description, like "cassette". There are some interesting little additions, though. Transmetal 2 Prowl is apparently Binaltech Prowl II, the one made from Chip Chase in the BT story blurbs. There's also the suggest that the Transmetal Rhinox seen in the Unicron Trilogy is actually BW Rhinox, plucked out of the Matrix after his death and transmetallized by the Vok into being a dimension-hopping "catalyst of change". Finally, Scarem is apparently fully aware that he is a Maximal protoform under the control of a Predacon shell program, and is constantly raging against it internally. Neat tidbits, but still don't make up for the art in some cases. Rartorarta is freaky looking enough without having him hunched over so that it looks like his head is in his chest. And Quickstrike, poor Quickstrike... -------------------- |
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Group: Citizen Posts: 1,160 Joined: 21-April 07 From: UK Member No.: 10,144 Faction: Free Agent |
Huh, I was told it didn't ship today...
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![]() Grumble grumble complain grouse. Group: Citizen Posts: 2,927 Joined: 27-May 07 Member No.: 10,262 Faction: Decepticon |
There are some interesting little additions, though. Transmetal 2 Prowl is apparently Binaltech Prowl II, the one made from Chip Chase in the BT story blurbs. There's also the suggest that the Transmetal Rhinox seen in the Unicron Trilogy is actually BW Rhinox, plucked out of the Matrix after his death and transmetallized by the Vok into being a dimension-hopping "catalyst of change". Finally, Scarem is apparently fully aware that he is a Maximal protoform under the control of a Predacon shell program, and is constantly raging against it internally. But BW Rhinox WAS plucked out of the Matrix...in Universe. -------------------- |
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Group: Citizen Posts: 1,160 Joined: 21-April 07 From: UK Member No.: 10,144 Faction: Free Agent |
Oh BALLS. I want to see what the hug Silverbolt he was using for reference for that pic... |
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![]() Group: Citizen Posts: 976 Joined: 12-March 05 Member No.: 6,191 |
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![]() Tinja Nurtles. Group: Citizen Posts: 10,044 Joined: 26-June 02 Member No.: 1,143 |
Can we stop having exceedingly tenuous and poorly-thought-out Rube-Goldbergian "this new character MUST be this other original character!!!!!" fanon getting canonized? This is painful.
M "Binaltech Prowl Was Painful Enough As-Is. And Don't Even Get Me Started On The Crap Armada Rhinox Got Put Through..." Sipher -------------------- The ISLE OF RANGOON - Advantures in Learning and Sarcasm!
Holy crap Sipher has a Tumblr apparently! http://www.tfwiki.net - We left Wikia before it was cool to do so! "I don't know whether it's a new thing, but it's certainly a current thing, in that it doesn't seem to matter what facts are. It used to be, everyone was entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Stephen Colbert |
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![]() Cyber Key Power...linx! Group: Citizen Posts: 7,170 Joined: 14-January 02 Member No.: 355 |
Ah, but while Ramulus is even-tempered, he can also be goated into rash action hee hee hee. isn't he a sheep though? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-fire.gif) -------------------- |
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Group: Citizen Posts: 9,869 Joined: 17-January 03 Member No.: 1,967 |
I'd have been fine with Prowl being a reincarnation of the original because his Bio alludes to that idea.
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![]() Tinja Nurtles. Group: Citizen Posts: 10,044 Joined: 26-June 02 Member No.: 1,143 |
I'd have been happy with Prowl simply being a delusional nut who thought he was G1 Prowl but really isn't. It's funnier.
(Also, who WASN'T on the goddamn Axalon anymore?) M "The More Hoops You Need To Invent To Jump Through To Explain Why X Is A, The Less Reason You Have To DO It" Sipher -------------------- The ISLE OF RANGOON - Advantures in Learning and Sarcasm!
Holy crap Sipher has a Tumblr apparently! http://www.tfwiki.net - We left Wikia before it was cool to do so! "I don't know whether it's a new thing, but it's certainly a current thing, in that it doesn't seem to matter what facts are. It used to be, everyone was entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Stephen Colbert |
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![]() Grumble grumble complain grouse. Group: Citizen Posts: 2,927 Joined: 27-May 07 Member No.: 10,262 Faction: Decepticon |
And now the inevitable countdown until Ben "reviews" the sourcebook by defending all of his choices.
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Group: Citizen Posts: 2,945 Joined: 13-April 06 Member No.: 8,112 |
Absolutely terrible. I'd say expected except IDW promised us there wouldn't be these glaring errors anymore. Yes, the horrendous art isn't an "error", but stuff like Ravage's altmode being NAME and Rartorarta being out of order (seriously, how freaking hard is it to alphabetize a list?!) IS.
The weird thing is, I actually kinda liked Milkovich's Rattrap...the robot mode doesn't have a great pose, but it's a decent rendition of the character, and he actually draws the beast mode like it looks on the show. Rhinox is passable, but Silverbolt...ye gods. Razorclaw looks horrendous (for an example of how he SHOULD be done, look at Rockbuster). Khanna's Rampage is good, but I would swear that he just lifted it exactly from the art he did of Rampage before (a minor complaint, I know). And why the hug are Powerpinch and Scissor Boy in the exact same pose, reversed, except with completely different details? Here's a hint IDW, you don't make the exact repaints look different by making the same artist do them. Random 'bots have alternate head designs when others don't. The whole thing looks like it hasn't been inked, just penciled and colored. And that's just the art...the writing...ugh. The quotes are horrible, and this is indefensible for the show characters who HAD a plethora of good quotes to use. "Peace is the absence of conflict and the presence of justice" is NOT something that Optimus Primal would have ever uttered with a straight face. Rampage wasn't evil, he was tortured. "Be a straight shooter and your friends and enemies will respect ya." (Rattrap...what?!) "The only true loyalty is to oneself" (Scorponok...that's like, the exact opposite of his personality). I still hate how all the show character bios aren't personalities, but a personal history of their show exploits. Honestly, I love Ben Yee, but he was NOT the person to do this book. |
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Employee Vigilante Group: Citizen Posts: 27,400 Joined: 12-January 02 From: Columbus, OH Member No.: 245 Faction: RIRFIB |
Oh BALLS. I want to see what the hug Silverbolt he was using for reference for that pic... I think it was this. -------------------- |
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![]() Tinja Nurtles. Group: Citizen Posts: 10,044 Joined: 26-June 02 Member No.: 1,143 |
And why the hug are Powerpinch and Scissor Boy in the exact same pose, reversed, except with completely different details? Here's a hint IDW, you don't make the exact repaints look different by making the same artist do them. Powerpinch and Scissor Boy aren't even redecoes. They're the same toy in the same colors, just released in different markets. M "How Does No-One CATCH This?" Sipher -------------------- The ISLE OF RANGOON - Advantures in Learning and Sarcasm!
Holy crap Sipher has a Tumblr apparently! http://www.tfwiki.net - We left Wikia before it was cool to do so! "I don't know whether it's a new thing, but it's certainly a current thing, in that it doesn't seem to matter what facts are. It used to be, everyone was entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Stephen Colbert |
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Purveyor of Ponies. And Physics. ![]() Group: Supporter Posts: 11,940 Joined: 22-December 01 From: Kearney, NE Member No.: 89 Faction: Autobot |
I like the 70s Marvel vibe that Milkovich and Williams bring. Of course, I'd also like it if Bill Sienkiewicz did some profile art. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-hotrod.gif) IDIC, man.
---Dave, who still can't get Diamond to cough up a copy of #1, and the CBR he found has no Bump. He needs Bump. (Edit: and yes, if you wanna unload your copy of #1, I'm interested.) This post has been edited by Dvandom: Jan 5 2008, 02:38 AM --------------------
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![]() The power of metal, unchained Group: Citizen Posts: 13,589 Joined: 25-January 04 From: South of Heaven, north of Hell Member No.: 4,035 Faction: Unicron's Spawn |
(Also, who WASN'T on the goddamn Axalon anymore?) Big Daddy. Sadly. -------------------- ![]() |
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