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 Jun 23 2012, 01:57 PM
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 Blasphemer Group: Citizen Posts: 15,274 Joined: 29-January 05 From: Copperas Cove, Texas Member No.: 5,902  |
Every so often, something comes up in the episode discussions that makes it clear that somewhere along the way, the world of Prime & Rescue Bots deviated significantly from the real world; this is in contrast to some of the previous shows (like pre-Movie G1 and the Bayverse) which tried to use the real world as a backdrop as much as possible.
This is what's been noted so far. Please chip in if you see anything else. Bold = Prime / Rescue Bots. Military: The RAH-66 Comanche is the standard assault helicopter for the US military. The Comanche was cancelled in 2004, leaving the AH-64 family as America's dominant assault helicopter. The F-35 Lightning II is the standard air superiority fighter for the US military. Only 63 have been fielded so far, and they're all being held back as trainers. A version of the UH-1 Iroquois with a chin-mounted machine gun is the standard transport helicopter for US commandos. No such Huey variant is known to exist. Those with guns either have them as door-mounts or used gun pods under the wings. Additionally, the US Army has phased out the UH-1 in exchange for the UH-60 Blackhawk. History: A Russian military base in Kamchatka had to be abandoned in 1991 due to volcanic activity. The Wiki can't find any real-life evacuations. An artificial volcano was featured in the 1939 World's Fair. Nope. Nature / Science: A wild Grizzly bear lives within the woods on Griffin Rock, a New England island There haven’t been wild Grizzlies in that part of the world for decades. - Sabrblade This post has been edited by Fortress Ironhold: Jun 25 2012, 10:59 AM -------------------- Lexicon: still up and running!
** "At my last intern briefing, Craig was clearly tired. His message had changed to, "Stay out of trouble, period." It seemed that, as director of security, Livingstone was growing old fast. If he didn't watch out, he'd become one of us - a 'Mormon' or a 'straight,' which is what Clinton staffers called FBI agents, the Secret Service, and former Bush employees." Aldrich, Gary. Unlimited Access Washington D.C.: Regency, 1996. Pg 38 ** Please visit my Half.com store Deviant Art page |
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Jun 23 2012, 02:01 PM
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 Whatever Group: Citizen Posts: 2,441 Joined: 5-September 10 From: Wherever I am Member No.: 13,635 Faction: Free Agent |
I'm guessing this thread is about how the shows differ in human history and such, and not stuff like whether or not real-world earth is actually Unicron,
...right? This post has been edited by swash: Jun 23 2012, 02:01 PM |
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Jun 23 2012, 02:01 PM
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 GIGA DRILL RIDER KICK!  Group: Supporter Posts: 4,246 Joined: 30-April 05 From: Providence RI (Formerly Pittsburgh PA & Wales UK) Member No.: 6,443 Faction: Cannonball's Pirate Crew |
Cool story bro.
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Jun 23 2012, 02:08 PM
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Blasphemer Group: Citizen Posts: 15,274 Joined: 29-January 05 From: Copperas Cove, Texas Member No.: 5,902 |
QUOTE(swash @ Jun 23 2012, 02:01 PM)  I'm guessing this thread is about how the shows differ in human history and such, and not stuff like whether or not real-world earth is actually Unicron, ...right? Pretty much. A lot of the past TF shows have been "It's just like our Earth, except SHOCKING SWERVE!" (Fortress Maximus being hidden on the planet, the mini-cons causing Atlantis to sink, et cetra). But with Prime and Rescue Bots, I'm noticing subtle and not-so-subtle instances where things are noticeably different even outside of the whole "Unicron" bit. -------------------- Lexicon: still up and running!
** "At my last intern briefing, Craig was clearly tired. His message had changed to, "Stay out of trouble, period." It seemed that, as director of security, Livingstone was growing old fast. If he didn't watch out, he'd become one of us - a 'Mormon' or a 'straight,' which is what Clinton staffers called FBI agents, the Secret Service, and former Bush employees." Aldrich, Gary. Unlimited Access Washington D.C.: Regency, 1996. Pg 38 ** Please visit my Half.com store Deviant Art page |
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Jun 23 2012, 02:18 PM
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 I'm sexy and I know it. Group: Citizen Posts: 19,039 Joined: 19-September 04 From: Sacramento, CA living in Fort Drum, NY Member No.: 5,052 Faction: Autobot |
QUOTE(Fortress Ironhold @ Jun 23 2012, 01:08 PM) ...with Prime and Rescue Bots, I'm noticing subtle and not-so-subtle instances where things are noticeably different even outside of the whole "Unicron" bit. I don't think the things you listed here would be noticeable to the average viewer. Most military hardware is somewhat generic as far as most people a concerned so using an older helicopter in lieu of the latest Black Hawk will go unnoticed by most people, hell it take me a few minuets to find mistakes in US Army uniforms on TV and in movies and I wear one almost every day. |
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Jun 23 2012, 03:58 PM
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 Soundwave is colorblind Group: Citizen Posts: 4,322 Joined: 20-November 03 Member No.: 3,948 Faction: RIBFIR |
QUOTE(Fortress Ironhold @ Jun 23 2012, 02:08 PM) QUOTE(swash @ Jun 23 2012, 02:01 PM) I'm guessing this thread is about how the shows differ in human history and such, and not stuff like whether or not real-world earth is actually Unicron, ...right? Pretty much. A lot of the past TF shows have been "It's just like our Earth, except SHOCKING SWERVE!" (Fortress Maximus being hidden on the planet, the mini-cons causing Atlantis to sink, et cetra). But with Prime and Rescue Bots, I'm noticing subtle and not-so-subtle instances where things are noticeably different even outside of the whole "Unicron" bit. I'm not sure it's really any different. I think a country called "Carbombya" existing is a larger departure from reality than the military using outdated helicopters. --------------------  |
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Jun 23 2012, 03:59 PM
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 Incurable lover of the grotesque Group: Citizen Posts: 6,963 Joined: 27-April 12 From: Florida Member No.: 15,370 Faction: Free Agent |
The alternate history stuff is kinda interesting though.
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Jun 23 2012, 04:06 PM
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Whatever Group: Citizen Posts: 2,441 Joined: 5-September 10 From: Wherever I am Member No.: 13,635 Faction: Free Agent |
The G1 cartoon had the Soviet Union existing in the 21st cntury. Not exactly "history" since the show was made in the 80s, but well...
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Jun 23 2012, 04:58 PM
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 pwn4ge is forever Group: Citizen Posts: 12,421 Joined: 9-February 02 Member No.: 633 |
Beast Wars had T.rex and Velociraptor fossils in Africa, the Great Rift Valley about 20 feet wide, and at least two million years and three modifications of genera in human evolution taking place in about three months. In the Movieverse, humans didn't find out you could use burning oil to generate energy to move a piston until whenever Archibald found Megatron, since it was only from his technology that cars were made possible. This post has been edited by Thylacine2000: Jun 23 2012, 05:03 PM -------------------- The TFWiki: when just five Infernos aren't enough. http://www.tfwiki.net
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Jun 23 2012, 05:06 PM
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 Commissions! cheetimus@cheetimus.com Group: Forum Moderator Posts: 34,101 Joined: 3-January 03 From: Baltimore Member No.: 1,895 Faction: RIBFIR |
QUOTE(Thylacine2000 @ Jun 23 2012, 05:58 PM) In the Movieverse, humans didn't find out you could use burning oil to generate energy to move a piston until whenever Archibald found Megatron, since it was only from his technology that cars were made possible. You had to remind me... --------------------  |
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Jun 23 2012, 07:54 PM
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Blasphemer Group: Citizen Posts: 15,274 Joined: 29-January 05 From: Copperas Cove, Texas Member No.: 5,902 |
QUOTE(Fnu Aw @ Jun 23 2012, 03:59 PM) The alternate history stuff is kinda interesting though. One of the things both sets of writers have in common is that they're rather darn good at conserving detail, not only within each individual episode but also across episodes. There's almost no telling what is and isn't going to be significant in the future. -------------------- Lexicon: still up and running!
** "At my last intern briefing, Craig was clearly tired. His message had changed to, "Stay out of trouble, period." It seemed that, as director of security, Livingstone was growing old fast. If he didn't watch out, he'd become one of us - a 'Mormon' or a 'straight,' which is what Clinton staffers called FBI agents, the Secret Service, and former Bush employees." Aldrich, Gary. Unlimited Access Washington D.C.: Regency, 1996. Pg 38 ** Please visit my Half.com store Deviant Art page |
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Jun 23 2012, 11:48 PM
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 That's "COMMANDER" to YOU... Group: Citizen Posts: 2,776 Joined: 14-January 02 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 340 Faction: Free Agent |
Dude... seriously. No offense, but: way, way, WAAAAY too much time on your hands. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-screamer.gif)
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Jun 23 2012, 11:53 PM
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 These little ponies really drive us bats. Group: Citizen Posts: 18,623 Joined: 8-February 03 From: Cybertron Member No.: 2,250 Faction: Decepticon |
QUOTE(Dr Thunderhead @ Jun 23 2012, 10:48 PM) Dude... seriously. No offense, but: way, way, WAAAAY too much time on your hands. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-screamer.gif) We're on a forum about children's toys. That statement pretty much applies to everyone here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-waspy.gif) -------------------- ***Signature removed by Staff due to size restrictions. Please keep to 500X200 images and text included.***
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Jun 23 2012, 11:59 PM
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 God of a Thousand Forms Group: Citizen Posts: 22,457 Joined: 26-February 06 From: Tartarus Member No.: 7,941 |
Pretty sure FI is on a higher level than all of us, Database.
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Jun 24 2012, 12:03 AM
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 The Docbot says I should quit but the voices tell me otherwise Group: Citizen Posts: 1,655 Joined: 3-November 11 From: Bear Delaware Member No.: 14,943 Faction: Autobot |
QUOTE(Database @ Jun 24 2012, 12:53 AM) QUOTE(Dr Thunderhead @ Jun 23 2012, 10:48 PM) Dude... seriously. No offense, but: way, way, WAAAAY too much time on your hands. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-screamer.gif) We're on a forum about children's toys. That statement pretty much applies to everyone here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-waspy.gif) Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus. But yes I am addicted to plastic crack so..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-waspy.gif) . I reject your reality and submit my own. carry on. --------------------  |
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Jun 24 2012, 12:29 AM
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Why don't Pac-Man wanna eat eyes? Group: Citizen Posts: 2,601 Joined: 2-April 06 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 8,070 Faction: Autobot |
QUOTE(swash @ Jun 23 2012, 05:06 PM) The G1 cartoon had the Soviet Union existing in the 21st cntury. Not exactly "history" since the show was made in the 80s, but well... Believe it or not, lots of serious people thought the USSR was going to keep going for a very long time. It's really hard to understand, looking back, just how permanent the Soviet Union looked from the outside, at the time. Likewise, the dissolution of the Communist Bloc in the late 80s and early 90s was a really big deal. The fall of the Berlin Wall caught a lot of people by surprise. -------------------- Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over.
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Jun 24 2012, 08:59 AM
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I'm sexy and I know it. Group: Citizen Posts: 19,039 Joined: 19-September 04 From: Sacramento, CA living in Fort Drum, NY Member No.: 5,052 Faction: Autobot |
QUOTE(Canthros @ Jun 23 2012, 11:29 PM) The fall of the Berlin Wall caught a lot of people by surprise. Not really Reagan told them to do it. This post has been edited by Smitty: Jun 24 2012, 09:00 AM |
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Jun 24 2012, 12:52 PM
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 Suddenly, Batcure. Group: Supporter Posts: 18,844 Joined: 25-February 03 From: YES TOWN Member No.: 2,375 Faction: Lesbian Ninja |
QUOTE(orionpax44 @ Jun 24 2012, 01:03 AM) Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus. Sigged, if you don't mind. --------------------  QUOTE(orionpax44 @ Jun 24 2012, 01:03 AM) Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus. QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Sep 9 2012, 01:53 PM) You're talking to ▲ndrusi. Assume everything that he posts is snark. |
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Jun 25 2012, 06:59 AM
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 Quyzbuk Group: Supporter Posts: 12,945 Joined: 22-May 02 From: Toronto Member No.: 1,017 Faction: Autobot |
I think this is a neat topic, but definitely shouldn't be relegated to just Prime/Rescue Bots.
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Jun 25 2012, 07:27 AM
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