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 Jan 5 2008, 11:28 PM
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Group: Citizen Posts: 2,751 Joined: 17-October 04 From: Atlanta Member No.: 5,172  |
And here I was thinking they were taking the extra time to tighten the whole thing up a bit. Guess not then.
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Jan 6 2008, 12:53 AM
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 Bettin' on the Ponies. Group: Citizen Posts: 1,596 Joined: 18-April 04 Member No.: 4,442 |
I begin to think that the BW license (if it could be split off) needs to be given to another comic publisher. Don't get me wrong, IDW is doing great with G1, but Beast Wars is just suffering with them. There is some truily great art, and some bios are inspired, but.... this series is not professional quality. I really think that someone could do an "unofficial" Beast Wars source book, and do better. The current BW comic isn't really holding my interest either. It might if it had a BW Spotlight series like G1 has. IDW's Beast Wars is lacluster compared to IDW G1, and it is quite obvious that Beast Wars is not being given the same resources, and distinction as G1. The glaring lack of editorial discipline is insulting. Dream Wave could have done the Source Books better (many publishers would have done the source book better). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-primal.gif)
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Jan 6 2008, 01:06 AM
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 Professional pain-in-the-ass Group: Citizen Posts: 3,782 Joined: 7-March 03 From: Sioux Falls, SD Member No.: 2,464 Faction: Autobot |
haven't gotten to see it yet.... UPS lost part of the comic shop's haul for the week. I'll have to wait til monday.
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Jan 6 2008, 01:38 AM
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 Group: Citizen Posts: 2,937 Joined: 13-April 06 Member No.: 8,112 |
Well, Primal gets all the neccessary art for his ape, bat and Optimal forms, but nothing for his Transmetal form. Dunno if you can count that as "omitted" or not. (I really disliked them leaving out Megatron's TM form, as it's his iconic look to me).
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Jan 6 2008, 01:43 AM
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 Employee Vigilante Group: Citizen Posts: 27,392 Joined: 12-January 02 From: Columbus, OH Member No.: 245 Faction: RIRFIB |
The art of Prime's organic ape mode is hilarious. And not in a good way. I think he's a Yeti.
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Jan 6 2008, 03:29 AM
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Group: Citizen Posts: 2,937 Joined: 13-April 06 Member No.: 8,112 |
I just noticed that not only are Powerpinch and Scissor Boy's robot modes mirror images (but completely redrawn details) of each other, but the beast modes are too. Milkovich is the new Floro Dery.
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Jan 6 2008, 05:27 AM
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 Grumble grumble complain grouse. Group: Citizen Posts: 2,923 Joined: 27-May 07 Member No.: 10,262 Faction: Decepticon |
QUOTE(Magnusblitz @ Jan 5 2008, 10:38 PM)  Well, Primal gets all the neccessary art for his ape, bat and Optimal forms, but nothing for his Transmetal form. Dunno if you can count that as "omitted" or not. (I really disliked them leaving out Megatron's TM form, as it's his iconic look to me). Apparently Millkovich drew those, so... -------------------- |
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Jan 7 2008, 10:53 PM
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 Spooky. Group: Retired Staff Posts: 6,154 Joined: 22-December 01 From: Bay Area, CA Member No.: 87 Faction: Decepticon |
I was flipping through my Armada MTMTE books last night...and it amazed me how much better they were than the Sourcebook in pretty much every single way.
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Jan 8 2008, 05:50 AM
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 I brought the Glow Sticks!  Group: Supporter Posts: 4,403 Joined: 25-October 04 From: Longview, WA Member No.: 5,224 Faction: Maximal |
Well I'm guessing any non character items are pry out of the question. It would be nice if they gave us some entries maybe on the Axalon and Darksyde, The Vok, Angolmois energy, Stasis Pods, Sentinel, the Transmetal 2 Driver, but this is more than I hoped for really. I mean when I see entries about a happy meal toy or two it's still pretty cool.
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Jan 8 2008, 05:51 AM
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 Wanna check these ratings? I seem to have an audience of 2... Group: Supporter Posts: 6,061 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Rochester NY Member No.: 2,017 Faction: Free Agent |
QUOTE(Spectre @ Jan 7 2008, 10:53 PM) I was flipping through my Armada MTMTE books last night...and it amazed me how much better they were than the Sourcebook in pretty much every single way. Yup... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-screamer.gif) -------------------- QUOTE(Drivaaar @ Jan 22 2006, 06:22 PM) Y'see, even the Editor of the Enquirer has to draw the pun line somewhere, and you just obliterated that line with a big huge cannon filled with vast amounts of gunpowder. |
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Jan 8 2008, 06:07 AM
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Spooky. Group: Retired Staff Posts: 6,154 Joined: 22-December 01 From: Bay Area, CA Member No.: 87 Faction: Decepticon |
Also, where the hell is Scourge?
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Jan 8 2008, 03:39 PM
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wiggle waggle Group: Citizen Posts: 5,253 Joined: 1-August 03 From: Nilbog Member No.: 3,318 |
QUOTE(darthirian @ Jan 8 2008, 04:50 AM) Well I'm guessing any non character items are pry out of the question. It would be nice if they gave us some entries maybe on the Axalon and Darksyde, The Vok, Angolmois energy, Stasis Pods, Sentinel, the Transmetal 2 Driver, but this is more than I hoped for really. I mean when I see entries about a happy meal toy or two it's still pretty cool. Ben Yee said that there's a "Glossary" and it includes Artemis. |
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Jan 9 2008, 01:41 PM
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 Novus ordo seclorum Group: Forum Moderator Posts: 41,303 Joined: 18-June 03 From: Westlake, OH Member No.: 3,012 Faction: RIBFIR |
It doesn't need a new publisher, or even a new writer.
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Jan 9 2008, 04:18 PM
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 Derpin' Derpin' Derpin'! Group: Citizen Posts: 12,910 Joined: 19-July 05 From: Little Rock, AR Member No.: 6,887 |
The guy who drew that Silverbolt profile pic everyone hates defended his choice of aesthetics recently over at TFW2005:
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showpost.php...mp;postcount=29 QUOTE Actually, most people I had previewed the artwork to thought I meshed the computer-generated model and the toy model fairly successfully into a 2-d black & white line drawing. I like the artistic interpretation that these guys are very mechanical underneath all that organic tissue. It's all a matter of taste I suppose, I can't please everyone! Fortunately, IDW gave us pencillers/inkers a lot of creative freedom. I'm personally happy they went that route as opposed to the dull and unimaginative route that Dreamwave went with their G1 MTMTE soucebooks. I like a variety of art styles in a series of comic books, as opposed to artists being forced to adapt their style to Pat Lee's past works. The difference in tf art styles between artists like EJ Su, Nick Roche, and Don Figueroa is very refreshing IMO. For those remotely interested, I also pencilled and inked the following bios : Powerpinch Randy Rattrap Rattrap transmetal Razorclaw Rhinox Rhinox transmetal Scissor Boy Silverbolt -------------------- Hey, check out one of my sites!
PelleCreepy Horror movie reviews galore! TMNT Entity Vintage Ninja Turtle manga in English and comic reviews! Adventures in Poor Taste! Articles on pop culture, cartoons and comics! -Spengs |
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Jan 9 2008, 04:45 PM
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 Tinja Nurtles. Group: Citizen Posts: 10,043 Joined: 26-June 02 Member No.: 1,143 |
QUOTE Actually, most people I had previewed the artwork to thought I meshed the computer-generated model and the toy model fairly successfully into a 2-d black & white line drawing. I'm assuming that everyone he showed it to has only seen one or the other, never both, because the show model is the toy almost exactly. QUOTE I like the artistic interpretation that these guys are very mechanical underneath all that organic tissue. Note the operative word. Underneath. As in, "there is organic tissue over the mechanical stuff." Not "all organic material goes bye-bye in robot mode". QUOTE Fortunately, IDW gave us pencillers/inkers a lot of creative freedom. Taking everything into consideration, I'd say it's more a case of "nobody in charge was paying any attention". M "That Seems Way More Likely" Sipher -------------------- The ISLE OF RANGOON - Advantures in Learning and Sarcasm!
Holy crap Sipher has a Tumblr apparently! http://www.tfwiki.net - We left Wikia before it was cool to do so! "I don't know whether it's a new thing, but it's certainly a current thing, in that it doesn't seem to matter what facts are. It used to be, everyone was entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Stephen Colbert |
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Jan 9 2008, 05:32 PM
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 Group: Citizen Posts: 976 Joined: 12-March 05 Member No.: 6,191 |
Whats the point of even including Bat Primal and Croc megs if they get no story whats so ever?
And if they can't come up with good stories for the transmetal form why not just make them evil clones or something? I know it was done before but its better than dimensional Vok adventures. (In my opinion at least) A lot of the bios really were, I dunno bland to me also. It doesn't feel like beast wars personalities, just really generic mostly. |
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Jan 9 2008, 09:54 PM
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Employee Vigilante Group: Citizen Posts: 27,392 Joined: 12-January 02 From: Columbus, OH Member No.: 245 Faction: RIRFIB |
QUOTE(Milkovich @ Jan 9 2008, 04:18 PM) Fortunately, IDW gave us pencillers/inkers a lot of creative freedom. I'm personally happy they went that route as opposed to the dull and unimaginative route that Dreamwave went with their G1 MTMTE soucebooks. Ironically, his art looked like exactly like some of my least favorite pieces from the DW profiles. Searchlight comes to mind, who apparently transforms into a meched-out automobile with tech details all over his car surfacing. That's not imaginative, that's just dumb. -------------------- |
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Jan 9 2008, 10:10 PM
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 These little ponies really drive us bats. Group: Citizen Posts: 18,610 Joined: 8-February 03 From: Cybertron Member No.: 2,250 Faction: Decepticon |
One thing I hear about is the lack of humor and fun in the profiles, but well, they are PROFILES. Really, how would you detracted write a serious BW profile for Tigertron or Rhinox, that is just full of fun and mirth, would you start mentiontiong Rhinox Nuclear fart? Or that great throw away line he had in one episode?
Granted I don't have any of the issues, lack of a comic shop. And I can agree with the part from the images posted. But complaining that proflies, arent full of jokes and humor, seems just petty. -------------------- ***Signature removed by Staff due to size restrictions. Please keep to 500X200 images and text included.***
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Jan 9 2008, 10:46 PM
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Employee Vigilante Group: Citizen Posts: 27,392 Joined: 12-January 02 From: Columbus, OH Member No.: 245 Faction: RIRFIB |
QUOTE(Database @ Jan 9 2008, 10:10 PM) One thing I hear about is the lack of humor and fun in the profiles, but well, they are PROFILES. Really, how would you detracted write a serious BW profile for Tigertron or Rhinox, that is just full of fun and mirth, would you start mentiontiong Rhinox Nuclear fart? Or that great throw away line he had in one episode? To start, you can make Moon a serious character... -------------------- |
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Jan 9 2008, 10:56 PM
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Spooky. Group: Retired Staff Posts: 6,154 Joined: 22-December 01 From: Bay Area, CA Member No.: 87 Faction: Decepticon |
The profiles don't even have to be "funny" they just have to be entertaining. Otherwise, why would I want to read them?
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