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 Mar 25 2012, 07:12 AM
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(This is going to make me sound so stupid. If you don't like reading utter stupidity, this isn't the thread for you. XD)
Yesterday, I saw an episode of Prime. I had missed some of it, though. I normally like watching shows on Youtube, because I have Episode OCD, and I can't stand it if I don't see the episodes in chronilogical order. I needed to kill some time, so I watched it anyway. XD It was about Arcee facing who I thought was Black Arachnia, but Arcee kept calling her Arachnid. Was she Black Arachnia or not? Was 'Arachnid' just a nickname? Or is Black Arachnia's name actualy Black Arachnid? --------------------  |
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Mar 25 2012, 07:15 AM
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 Group: Citizen Posts: 6,201 Joined: 21-July 09 Member No.: 12,682 Faction: Autobot |
Airachnid is a completely different character from Blackarachnia.
To clarify, Blackarachnia is generally portrayed as an unwilling "defector" to the bad guys. Generally they're forced by circumstances, and as they develop they seek to change those circumstances, in Beast Wars by going Maximal, in Animated by trying to cure herself at all costs. In both cases there's an air of "redeemability" about her, later in Beast Wars but earlier in Animated. Airachnid is a to-the-spark psychotic serial murderer who's been responsible for repeated acts of genocide, torture, violence and murder. She isn't redeemable, she's flat out evil and enjoys every moment of it. She joined the Decepticons not because she was particularly forced, but because they presented the best opportunities for violence, terror, and torture, all of which are things she enjoys and is very good at (same reasons the Autobots wouldn't go near her). This post has been edited by Pennpenn: Mar 25 2012, 07:20 AM |
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Mar 25 2012, 07:15 AM
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 God of a Thousand Forms Group: Citizen Posts: 22,395 Joined: 26-February 06 From: Tartarus Member No.: 7,941 |
This is Airachnid, she's a different character from Black Arachnia.
Different shows, different continuity. -------------------- Don't fail to see Nyarlathotep if he comes to Providence. He is horrible — horrible beyond anything you can imagine — but wonderful. He haunts one for hours afterward. I am still shuddering at what he showed. |
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Mar 25 2012, 08:19 AM
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 Spaceship Kittybird! Group: Citizen Posts: 2,936 Joined: 21-November 06 Member No.: 9,388 Faction: Predacon |
It's spelled Blackarachnia.
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Mar 25 2012, 08:31 AM
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Group: Citizen Posts: 996 Joined: 15-September 04 Member No.: 5,037 Faction: Autobot |
Think of it this way, if it helps: Prime Arachnid transforms into a helicopter, so she's an "Air" achnid.
While Black Arachnia is a Ar "cat" nia, because like Catwoman from Batman the Animated series, deep down, her heart's in the right place. -------------------- CW "We could always force him to watch that security footage of Waspinator trying to play an accordion.
DH "Are you kidding? Waspinator couldn't play a kazoo without fragging himself!" |
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Mar 25 2012, 08:34 AM
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Group: Citizen Posts: 6,201 Joined: 21-July 09 Member No.: 12,682 Faction: Autobot |
That doesn't make any sense since there's no "cat" sound in Black-a-rach-ni-a.
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Mar 25 2012, 09:03 AM
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 Suddenly, Batcure.  Group: Supporter Posts: 18,822 Joined: 25-February 03 From: YES TOWN Member No.: 2,375 Faction: Lesbian Ninja |
What are you saying? That spider Decepticons all look the same to you? I find that racist.
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Mar 25 2012, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE(▲ndrusi @ Mar 25 2012, 10:03 AM) What are you saying? That spider Decepticons all look the same to you? I find that racist. Spider Autobots, too. Blackarachnia looks a bit like Arcee.... *ducks* -------------------- |
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Mar 25 2012, 01:37 PM
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Group: Protoform Posts: 38 Joined: 6-March 12 Member No.: 15,250 Faction: Equestrian |
QUOTE What are you saying? That spider Decepticons all look the same to you? I find that racist. Well I probably am a bit racist towards Spiders, since I have Arachnaphobia. XD "NO SPIDAS IN MAH HOUSE! D:<" This post has been edited by Vulpy: Mar 25 2012, 01:37 PM -------------------- |
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Mar 25 2012, 01:51 PM
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 I can see my house from here! Group: Supporter Posts: 11,404 Joined: 18-August 04 From: The planet that is farthest from. Member No.: 4,936 |
QUOTE(Pennpenn @ Mar 25 2012, 07:15 AM) She joined the Decepticons not because she was particularly forced, but because they presented the best opportunities for violence, terror, and torture, all of which are things she enjoys and is very good at (same reasons the Autobots wouldn't go near her). Well, she did join Megatron under a bit of duress. Arcee destroyed her ship and she found herself stuck either fending off both Autobots AND Decepticons or falling back in with the bad guys. --------------------  Eventually, I think. - Temp |
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Mar 26 2012, 01:37 AM
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 The world suffused with sound Group: Supporter Posts: 16,485 Joined: 24-August 03 Member No.: 3,458 |
Her reluctance to join up isn't due to a clashing of personalities much, mind you.
It's more because she's not a fan of being saddled with the limits of a command structure. This post has been edited by mx-01 archon: Mar 26 2012, 01:37 AM |
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Mar 26 2012, 01:46 AM
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 Frater Group: Citizen Posts: 4,082 Joined: 15-September 08 Member No.: 11,989 Faction: Maximal |
Yeah, let's not forget that prior to Arcee destroying her ship, she was just out cruising the galaxy committing genocide as a hobby.
She's never had a good-girl side to her, just varying degrees of disrespect for authority. --------------------  |
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Mar 26 2012, 07:49 AM
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Mar 26 2012, 07:57 AM
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Group: Citizen Posts: 6,201 Joined: 21-July 09 Member No.: 12,682 Faction: Autobot |
QUOTE(Dake @ Mar 25 2012, 01:51 PM) QUOTE(Pennpenn @ Mar 25 2012, 07:15 AM) She joined the Decepticons not because she was particularly forced, but because they presented the best opportunities for violence, terror, and torture, all of which are things she enjoys and is very good at (same reasons the Autobots wouldn't go near her). Well, she did join Megatron under a bit of duress. Arcee destroyed her ship and she found herself stuck either fending off both Autobots AND Decepticons or falling back in with the bad guys. I meant initially, as in before Earth. She was a Decepticon, but by the time of "Predatory" had obviously dropped that. She was forced (somewhat) to play along with the Decepticons on Earth, but it's fairly obvious (given her actions when Megatron was missing in Unicron) she's just waiting for her opportunity to get out, and it appears that she's going to in the next episode. Or at least try. |
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Mar 26 2012, 08:31 AM
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 Feeling like myselves again. Group: Citizen Posts: 19,690 Joined: 17-January 03 From: Ontario Canada Member No.: 1,958 Faction: Decepticon |
yep two different characters. Just like Prime Arcee and any of the previous ones*
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Mar 26 2012, 09:47 AM
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Airachnid has done very well to distinguish herself from Blackaracnia. Air's no a schemer, she's a sadistic killer. BA was more of a fem fatalle, seducer schemer ninja girl.
The traits they share are: Spider motif, hints of seduction, and an untrusting/distant attitude to their compatriots. It's only because of animated's color scheme that the two look much alike. BW BA is Black w/ Gold (or Magenta with Green) Air's Insecticon Black and Purple with gold trim. -------------------- Clearing out some old TFs and Mugenbine in my BST Thread. You know you want some of these.
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Mar 26 2012, 10:41 AM
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Feeling like myselves again. Group: Citizen Posts: 19,690 Joined: 17-January 03 From: Ontario Canada Member No.: 1,958 Faction: Decepticon |
Vulpy, in matters of continuity -it is best to assume any character with the same-or slightly similar visual characteristics -are in fact New characters or Different versions of a character.
G1 Applejack vs Fim Applejack for example -------------------- |
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Mar 27 2012, 07:52 PM
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Eh, at a very shallow level, she fills basically the same spot Blackarachnia filled previously: Decepticon/Predacon defector, part-spider, female. I don't think a Blackarachnia could exist in the Prime universe, so to me, Airachnid is basically Prime Blackarachnia. No, the analog isn't perfect--but the same could be said of all the other Prime characters that take liberties with the previously established characters.
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Mar 27 2012, 10:09 PM
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Feeling like myselves again. Group: Citizen Posts: 19,690 Joined: 17-January 03 From: Ontario Canada Member No.: 1,958 Faction: Decepticon |
analog ..I do not think the word means what you think it means.
Harry Potter, Frodo, and Luke Skywalker are analogous Airachnid and Blackarachnia are about the same as Prime Wheeljack is to Armada Wheeljack the beast BA and Animated BA are analogous... because despite their differences they fit the same archetype "redeamable damaged Female" Bw Blackarachnia is Catwoman An Blackarachnia is Harley Quinn Airachnid is Poison Ivy -------------------- |
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Mar 27 2012, 11:02 PM
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ARMS UP!! \(^_^)/ Group: News and Content Posts: 12,108 Joined: 2-May 02 Member No.: 940 |
I explained in my post how they are analogous. I also said the analogy was not perfect. Your reply doesn't really add to or take away from anything I was saying..
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