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post Apr 9 2012, 09:42 PM
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Would you like another TF "build it figure"?

I ask this question because last week. I noticed Marvel was still doing the "build it figure" parts inside other toy packages thing.

yes,I don't see the harm in it,as it's free & included inside another TF toy I buy.

Transmute was a bit of a dissapointment & rather a obsecure/un-popular/lack-luster choice.

I'd prefer the "build it figure" transform into a alt mode. even if it's a extremly simplistic transformation challenge.
I'd like the build it figure to be at least voyager sized,maybe bigger. instead of including the "build it figure" in 6 different TF toy packages,how about including the parts in 10 different TF toys packages.

I prefer another TF "Build it figure" that's a bit more popular & less obsecure. like as follows: G-1 Arcee,G-1 Ravage,Alpha Trion,G-1 Galvatron,G-1 Grimlock
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post Apr 9 2012, 09:52 PM
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I'd like the build it figure to be at least voyager sized,maybe bigger. instead of including the "build it figure" in 6 different TF toy packages,how about including the parts in 10 different TF toys packages.

While I like the idea, it would be especially difficult to implement for a toy that has to transform. Also, voyagers are quite a bit larger than a deluxe, so a voyager-sized toy would be a lot of extra plastic (and expense). Remember, even split among ten toys, a $20 toy is adding roughly $2 to the cost of every other toy, for an accessory that will be useless to the vast majority of toy buyers who won't buy nearly enough toys to complete the set.

This also works directly against the current case-assignment model in which not all toys are shipped in even amounts. You are literally guaranteeing wasted parts if there are more arms out there than legs.

And, all that's for a voyager toy that will likely be significantly compromised by the need to be splittable into 10 roughly-equal parts.

*edit* But, to be clear, I'd love the idea if it could actually be done at negligible extra cost to the base toy, and be meaningfully completeable, and produce a decent (or at least interesting) toy in the end. I'd imagine that those standards are impossible to meet, but conceptually it would be great fun, I think.

*edit*edit* A thought -- Micromaster combiners would ship well this way. That way, you're not getting a completely useless part even if you never get the set, but the set gives you something cool, too. Perhaps the combiner kibble could be fashioned to also be weapons for the main toys, so that the kibble bits could be their own pack-in component.

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post Apr 9 2012, 10:04 PM
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Build-a-figures are only fun if I were going to buy all the necessary toys anyway, or maybe all but one. I'm not a completist in any toy line anymore, so BAFs just mean I end up with a bunch of parts. I'd rather they just, you know, sell the toy individually and let me buy it or not.

I can still sort of understand the desire, though -- kind of like how I miss Robot Points, even though you just ended up paying more than the toy is is worth anyway.
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post Apr 9 2012, 10:15 PM
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The figures we got the parts in would either have to be 100% brand new or different enough from previous releases to justify making the purchase.

What ruined the Beast Wars anniversary packs for me was the fact that I already had the vintage releases of a few of the figures in the assortment.

Thus, I was faced with the prospect of either not getting everyone and so not getting all of the parts for Transmutate or getting all the parts for Transmutate but having duplicate figures.


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post Apr 9 2012, 10:20 PM
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I just can't see it working for Transformers.

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post Apr 9 2012, 10:23 PM
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I think it would be pretty neat. I also think it could be done with a character that a lot of people want but wouldn't be practical to try to sell on its own.

I know the Quintessons are pretty much shunted out of the mythos these days, but that kind of non transforming character would be an ideal candidate for a build a figure. A face and body slice in 5 different Generations figures that you'd build into a Quintesson would be quite cool. Imagine if Kup, Hot Rod, Cyclonus, Scourge and Wreck-Gar all came with a part. That would be thematic and figures that everyone would want. And there's really not a whole lot of engineering that needs to go into making 5 faces and a back that snaps onto identical backs with other faces.

On the other hand you could go the "Build and Action Master" route and take any character and design them like you would any modern action figure but it would be a posable, non transforming representation with good articulation, good paint and good detail.

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I want Fall of Cybertron Build A Figures. You buy a FoC figure and get a custom part that can be used to make one of the multiplayer body types. Each of the classes- scientist, scout, soldier and leader could be broken into 4 parts that you could mix and match. The transformations would have to be semi-compatible, but the accessories (wings, wheels, guns, spoilers, heads, etc.) could all be on 5 mm pegs and c-clips so you could spread them out.


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post Apr 10 2012, 05:39 AM
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Autobot X works for me.

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post Apr 10 2012, 07:17 AM
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Do it like they are the gum with Fort Max. Release each limb as a base for the Cyberverse dudes and then the combined mode is a 3ft tall Fort Max....


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post Apr 10 2012, 07:43 AM
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id take a build-a-figure PRIME Unicron plzkthx


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post Apr 10 2012, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(God Fire Convoy @ Apr 10 2012, 07:43 AM) *
id take a build-a-figure PRIME Unicron plzkthx


Prime Unicron is a Cyberverse playset just waiting to happen so I doubt it.


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post Apr 10 2012, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(Gryllid @ Apr 9 2012, 11:04 PM) *
Build-a-figures are only fun if I were going to buy all the necessary toys anyway, or maybe all but one. I'm not a completist in any toy line anymore, so BAFs just mean I end up with a bunch of parts. I'd rather they just, you know, sell the toy individually and let me buy it or not.

I can still sort of understand the desire, though -- kind of like how I miss Robot Points, even though you just ended up paying more than the toy is is worth anyway.

This basically how I feel too.

I only bought 3 of the 10th ann BW figures because that's all I needed so I never got a whole Transmutate. And I don't buy figures that I don't need or want, so a BAF wouldn't really be an inducement for me to buy any more figures.

QUOTE(Kalidor @ Apr 9 2012, 11:23 PM) *
I think it would be pretty neat. I also think it could be done with a character that a lot of people want but wouldn't be practical to try to sell on its own.

I know the Quintessons are pretty much shunted out of the mythos these days, but that kind of non transforming character would be an ideal candidate for a build a figure. A face and body slice in 5 different Generations figures that you'd build into a Quintesson would be quite cool. Imagine if Kup, Hot Rod, Cyclonus, Scourge and Wreck-Gar all came with a part. That would be thematic and figures that everyone would want. And there's really not a whole lot of engineering that needs to go into making 5 faces and a back that snaps onto identical backs with other faces.

This though, would be a good idea! I've always thought that Death's Head would have been a good BAF too.


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post Apr 10 2012, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(Shockwave 75 @ Apr 10 2012, 10:25 AM) *
I've always thought that Death's Head would have been a good BAF too.


Well, we're getting a non-BAF Death's Head from the Marvel toy line next year.

Good enough, yes?


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post Apr 10 2012, 11:34 AM
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Aren't they making a BaF Bruticus?
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I could be interested in build-a-figure. I didn't get Transmutate because 1) don't really like Transmutate and 2) didn't buy any of that series of BW figures. But overall I approve of the idea.

I did end up with some odds and ends of BAF that I'd never complete. For example I think I got a Pitt arm or leg when I bought Madman from some "Legendary Heroes" type series. Ended up finding someone who wanted it, I just wanted to see it go to a good home instead of throwing it out.

I don't approve of BAF if it noticeably raises the cost of the figure.
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yeah I'd rather they gave us a set of figures that were completely independent... but then have mail away "gestalt parts" that you'd use these things called robot points for...

you'd cut them off the back of the cards and mail them in if you got the whole set and hasbro would ship you out..oh i don't know:

A head, Set of Shoulder extensions, chest plate, fists and forearms, feet and thighs.. oh and a real big gun


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post Apr 10 2012, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(Smitty @ Apr 10 2012, 10:34 AM) *
Aren't they making a BaF Bruticus?


If by BaF you mean "five separate Deluxes that all peg together into one giant figure", then yes. He's not a random body part packaged with a completely unrelated figure, a la Transmutate, the Marvel Legends BaFs or the Star Wars Create-A-Droid series.


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post Apr 11 2012, 01:32 PM
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This would probably work more better... If you had that a pack in weapon, that could mix and match with other weapons. Sort of like Energon. But done a bit slightly better than that.

I mean the weapons were just designed to peg to each other. Actually combinable weapons. To make something that actually looks like a larger weapons would be cool.


As for a buld a figure. It'd have to be designed to be sturdier than a normal tf. Which I figure would make transformation more taxing and such.


It would be neat if we got a customizable tf though. Swappable heads and weapons. To make different characters.


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post Apr 11 2012, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(Servitor 2152 @ Apr 10 2012, 02:48 PM) *
QUOTE(Smitty @ Apr 10 2012, 10:34 AM) *
Aren't they making a BaF Bruticus?


If by BaF you mean "five separate Deluxes that all peg together into one giant figure", then yes. He's not a random body part packaged with a completely unrelated figure, a la Transmutate, the Marvel Legends BaFs or the Star Wars Create-A-Droid series.

I know all that. My point is BaFs would not work well with Transformers and why what we have so may price points do we need BaFs to get bigger bots?
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QUOTE(Gryllid @ Apr 9 2012, 11:04 PM) *
Build-a-figures are only fun if I were going to buy all the necessary toys anyway, or maybe all but one. I'm not a completist in any toy line anymore, so BAFs just mean I end up with a bunch of parts. I'd rather they just, you know, sell the toy individually and let me buy it or not.

I can still sort of understand the desire, though -- kind of like how I miss Robot Points, even though you just ended up paying more than the toy is is worth anyway.


Totally agreed... although if they ever did it again I probably ~would~ just go for it, but I'm quite easy to entice with ~any~ plastic robots... probably why I have like 6 different movie-mold 'Bees.

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