2.22: "Hurricane Fluttershy", Spoilers*Spoilers*SELF-CONSCIOUS FLUTTERSHY*Spoilers*Spoilers Options

[Agent X]

Was so happy to see Blossomforth, get get a smigen of character (Clumsy?) and even get a few call-outs. Hopefully we can see her freakish neon-pink hedgehog sometime. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-hotrod.gif)

So, WHERE are the re-scored training montages?

[Sobana]

I was honestly not expecting that ending, it was very realistic. I thought it would go something like somepony would say "Without the rain water the small animals will starve!" and Fluttershy would be all like O_O and do the entire tornado herself, hence the name "Hurricane Fluttershy" but no, she started out at 0.5, which I just summed up to her being nervous, then through hard work and training went up to 2.3 and at the end when her friends needed her the most, she pushed her self to the limit with 2.7 wing power.

I liked the moral of the story, very good and relatable. Every little bit counts no matter how small it might be.

Every time that muscled pony came on screen I lol'd. Good work on that.

A lot of great scenes, overall very good, I enjoyed immensely! =D

And the reason why chat seems dull is because I'm not their to livin' it up, sillies. I won't be able to be in chat until next month, wait for me then! I miss you all! <3

[MyLittleEmpath]

And the reason why chat seems dull is because I'm not their to livin' it up, sillies. I won't be able to be in chat until next month, wait for me then! I miss you all! <3

I thought something was off...
Ah, well. See ya next month, then!

[TM2-Megatron]

That episode was very enjoyable. All throughout, I found that the atmosphere for each scene was set perfectly, whether we were at the library meeting, practice sessions, Fluttershy's cottage, etc. The spoof on 50s educational films was a great touch, and I really enjoyed all the background Pegasi and name introductions for so many of them.

Fluttershy was even more adorable than usual, and I really liked that they finally toned down the jerkish aspects of Rainbow's character again to something more reasonable. This is the Rainbow Dash that made me like her so much early on, and I want to see more of this Rainbow Dash going forward. She encouraged Fluttershy without bullying her, and wanted to break the record but didn't let it take precedence over simply getting the water up to Cloudsdale and actually doing her job without getting anypony hurt.

[Rezo]

Fluttershy not becoming super-pegasus, but simply doing her best. Rainbow Dash not breaking the record but doing her best. The plotline was, by and large, fairly realistic in these regards, which makes it very, very worthwhile.

Of course, none of this is without precedent in FiM, quite the opposite - but hey, continuing the good work is a good thing, right?

The humor was nice and generally subtle, too, exactly how I like it.

Nonetheless. Fluttershy episode, so I'm kinda meh on it. Her character just doesn't appeal to me.

Good episode, but it ain't even scratching on Rarity's throne~

[J4n1]

Loved this episode, not mrely liked, not "was good, except for...", not felt it was decent, I, Loved, This, Episode.
Rainbow Dash was in character (and awesome), Fluttershy was, well, herself, we got to see more pegasus ponies, Twilight was great (and Spike was clueless, never change little guy), and we got more world building done to boot.
No water evaporation? maybe, but it does not form into clouds, that's why they have cloud factories afterall (there might be some "wild" cloud formation in everfree forest and other "unnatural" places like that, but otherwise, it's all pegasi), so this not only fits in lore, but makes sense in context (as boiling water still probably steams, there should be some evaporation going on, it just probably never forms into clouds and comes down as dew in the mornings).

Also, more fodder for my fanon theory of Rainbow dash being the leader of the local pegasus community.
Nopony even tried questioning her place as the coach/leader, or her right to basicly tell every pegasus to "get your flanks in here" without giving any reason for it (and everyone (probably, she did count the heads) showed up (except Flutters who needed to be pushed in there)).

Also, i loved how the training montage ended with an increased wingpower, but still remained lot lower than average, making the improvement somewhat realistic, and not making the lesson one of "if you try, yo can do anything", but "even small contributions help", which is not only actually true, but also good lesson for people of all ages to understand.
Also liked the return of the mule.

And i have no actual complaints, about anything (well, it could have more Rainbow Dash, but that goes without saying), all around awesome episode.

[Dante]

So, in the training sequence near the beginning, is the pony bench-pressing the "1000" weight Sleipnir, or just a layout goof?

[J4n1]

So, in the training sequence near the beginning, is the pony bench-pressing the "1000" weight Sleipnir, or just a layout goof?

She's using her wings.

[Dante]

Ah, that makes sense.

[Master Fwiffo]

Fun episode! Very realistic (for a show about ponies and pegasi), especially in Fluttershy's ghosts from her pasts and them barely managing to do it, reasonably so.

[Vulpy]

I really liked this episode. It had a good lesson, Angel wasn't being rude for once, named background Ponies, and Rainbow was actualy being loyal and being in-character. Basically, she wasn't a jerk / bully.

After Putting Your Hoof Down, I started to believe Fluttershy was a Pony version of myself, but this episode made me believe it even more. XD The visions of Ponies teasing her, and Fluttershy getting upset because one Pony made a snide comment reminded me of my current school. I'm always afraid to do anything. If anyone makes a tiny mistake, the whole school knows about it by the end of the day.

[Fero McPigletron]

Actually, that's a thing about the other ponies. They probably aren't as mean spirited or nasty like, say, Silver Spoon or Diamond Tiara (one of them clapped first at the Granny Smith story tho) or Trixie or, Uh, those rude ponies at Put Your Hoof Down. They might just be amused or jovial types or clueless. Fluttershy might just be too sensitive.

I don't follow meme stuff so, Uh, how do the fan names become the most popular? Like Derpy. I mean, is Vinyl Scratch the official name or DJ Pon3? Or Octavia? Or Doctor Whooves? I mean, what's the accepted name of the Jelly pony in Heart and Hooves day now? What if the barrel cutie mark pony does get popularly named as Benchpress? Is there a chart or pony meme place that fans poll or something?

[Pennpenn]

Since people will inevitably ask about pony names for the episode... let's get this out of the way:

Rumble (Thunderlane's little brother)

"If on Pegasus turf you should happen to tumble, look out, Unicorns, cause here comes Rumble!"

Is it bad that I was disappointed that Rumble was grey?

[Rezo]

I'm rather surprised that nobody's complaining about the episode, tbh. One could easily argue - and with about as much sense as it did for the previous episode - about Fluttershy's character being 'Reset' again - all her 'Catching up to Rainbow Dash' in RoH Pt 2' was gone. Her more balanced approach to things after her assertiveness training? Gone too. And she didn't exactly have trouble flying with Rainbow Dash during cider season, either.

Quite different from the reactions to the previous episode, all things considered~

[Dvandom]

Absent specific callbacks, we really can't assume that the air order is actually the timeline. It could be argued that any "doormat Fluttershy" episodes by default happened before her encounter with Iron Will, for instance. Or that any "humble Dash" episodes are probably after her run-in with Mare Do Well. And so forth. Unfortunately, we know from last season that purely visual cues (i.e. the infamous rack of gowns) can't be trusted to help establish timing, else we could be certain that the Great Dragon Migration happened before Cranky Doodle Donkey settled down in Ponyville, and know for sure that air order doesn't match the timeline.

Of course, with no Big Arc Plot to the season, it's not like the writers are likely being given a timeline in the first place. It's pretty episodic in the sense that you should be able to scramble the air order of most episodes without affecting things.

---Dave

[Don_East]

I'm rather surprised that nobody's complaining about the episode, tbh. One could easily argue - and with about as much sense as it did for the previous episode - about Fluttershy's character being 'Reset' again - all her 'Catching up to Rainbow Dash' in RoH Pt 2' was gone. Her more balanced approach to things after her assertiveness training? Gone too. And she didn't exactly have trouble flying with Rainbow Dash during cider season, either.

Because they weren't. If Fluttershy wasn't as assertive, she would be forced into joining the pegasi much easier. She only said yes the first time because Rainbow Dash asked her to.

The line about Fluttershy only being fast because it was an emergency is obviously supposed to be a handwave for the times where Fluttershy was able to keep up with Rainbow Dash. Because the fate of her friends/Equestria was on the line.

If Fluttershy puts her mind to it, she could be on the same level as Rainbow Dash in terms of speed. However, her body hasn't is that well trained yet.

Watch the chase scene from The Last Round-Up for example. While she was able to run as fast as Rainbow Dash & bumped into the side of Applejack's cart, as soon as they stop Fluttershy was breathing heavily, clearly catching her breath since she's not use to such physical activity.

[J4n1]

I'm rather surprised that nobody's complaining about the episode, tbh. One could easily argue - and with about as much sense as it did for the previous episode - about Fluttershy's character being 'Reset' again - all her 'Catching up to Rainbow Dash' in RoH Pt 2' was gone. Her more balanced approach to things after her assertiveness training? Gone too. And she didn't exactly have trouble flying with Rainbow Dash during cider season, either.

Quite different from the reactions to the previous episode, all things considered~

Except, there really has been no reset.
Situations in Iron Will and Hurricane Fluttershy are different, in one you were being a doormat at individual ponies, in other you deal with public ridicule, embarrasment and feelings of inadequecy.
Also, Fluttershy has always been portrayed as a generally poor flyer, who is capable of great feats under extremis, like, when Rarity and Spike were falling to their deaths, or when she had to catch Rainbow Dash (who was both encumbered by weight, and possibly not taking things seriously at first (she was flying circles around Fluttershy at first)), and i seriously doubt RD was going anything near her top speed in Cider Season.
Also, Fluttershy is not an assertive person, except when she is (Staremaster, Dragonshy, Iron Will).

Characters grow, but they do remain themselves, and Fluttershy who is assertive and brave, is not Fluttershy anymore.
Just like Rainbow Dash will always remain abrasive, arrogant jerk, but who is also helpfull and loyal to his friends (and, occasionally, even understanding like we saw in this episode with Fluttershy), Fluttershy will always be shy, a bit cowardly, but kind and gently pony who tries to help her friends to best of her ability.

[Sobana]

Trying to figure out this wing power thing. We can naturally assume 1 wing power equals the amount of force it takes to lift and sustain one pegusi in the air, seeing how most ponies are reasonably the same height and weight. I think Flutteryshy got a 0.5 and was still able to remain in the air because she was gliding. I should go back and count how many ponies were waiting in line and divide that by 800 wing power to figure out the average is for most ponies. I imagine the 16 Rainbow Dash got was exceedingly well. I also take it those missing 6-8 ponies must of been the super stars that made up the remaining 200 wing power needed to surpass the record, over achievers really.

I thought something was off...
Ah, well. See ya next month, then!

Yay, something to look froward too! =D

Fluttershy was even more adorable than usual, and I really liked that they finally toned down the jerkish aspects of Rainbow's character again to something more reasonable. This is the Rainbow Dash that made me like her so much early on, and I want to see more of this Rainbow Dash going forward. She encouraged Fluttershy without bullying her, and wanted to break the record but didn't let it take precedence over simply getting the water up to Cloudsdale and actually doing her job without getting anypony hurt.

It is called deep character development. No one person acts to the same stereotypes they are known for all the time. A person can be nice and supportive most days and just be a mean jerk some days. I think it speaks a lot to her character that she is not completely predictive in her behavior.

I really liked this episode. It had a good lesson, Angel wasn't being rude for once, named background Ponies, and Rainbow was actualy being loyal and being in-character. Basically, she wasn't a jerk / bully.

what is that in your signature!? Burn it with rainbows! lol, jk. =p

I don't follow meme stuff so, Uh, how do the fan names become the most popular? Like Derpy. I mean, is Vinyl Scratch the official name or DJ Pon3? Or Octavia? Or Doctor Whooves? I mean, what's the accepted name of the Jelly pony in Heart and Hooves day now? What if the barrel cutie mark pony does get popularly named as Benchpress? Is there a chart or pony meme place that fans poll or something?

There is no official naming process, just what seems to stick. Like if someone on this site started calling a background pony "lollipop", suddenly everyone here calls her lollipop too. so, that would be like ten people who referrer to her as that. As soon as one of us goes to a different site and points out lollipop in the background, that site will start referring to her as that too and then you got ten more people calling her that. Names spread kind of like a plague, what people commonly refer to a pony as becomes their name.

[Rezo]

Characters grow, but they do remain themselves, and Fluttershy who is assertive and brave, is not Fluttershy anymore.

I believe the exact opposite was argued with regards to her fear of dragons :)

[J4n1]

Trying to figure out this wing power thing. We can naturally assume 1 wing power equals the amount of force it takes to lift and sustain one pegusi in the air, seeing how most ponies are reasonably the same height and weight. I think Flutteryshy got a 0.5 and was still able to remain in the air because she was gliding. I should go back and count how many ponies were waiting in line and divide that by 800 wing power to figure out the average is for most ponies. I imagine the 16 Rainbow Dash got was exceedingly well. I also take it those missing 6-8 ponies must of been the super stars that made up the remaining 200 wing power needed to surpass the record, over achievers really.

Eh, i don't think the idea that 1 wingpower = force needed to lift one pegasus, for one, i'm pretty sure that RD can't lift 15 ponies on her own.

As for the missing 6 to 8 ponies missing, they might not have been that big a deal, maybe others simply missed their required quota due to having early stages of feather flu.

Characters grow, but they do remain themselves, and Fluttershy who is assertive and brave, is not Fluttershy anymore.

I believe the exact opposite was argued with regards to her fear of dragons (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon-hotrod.gif)

Not by me.