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 Jan 19 2011, 04:41 PM
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Kinda surprised it took this long for this news to surface! Got my Gen 2 Prime in the mail from BBTS today, and as an afterthought, took a look at the instructions.
It's a similar but different head. He's definitely got the same crest and ears, but with a chinstrap, some kind of nose(?), and Ginrai-like double circles on each side of his head. -------------------- |
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Jan 19 2011, 04:44 PM
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Employee Vigilante Group: Citizen Posts: 27,405 Joined: 12-January 02 From: Columbus, OH Member No.: 245 Faction: RIRFIB |
(It may be Motormaster's toy head. It's not a perfect match, but it's as good a guess as any, other than "Facemaskless G2 Prime.")
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Jan 19 2011, 04:47 PM
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 It was catastro-, catastro-feeling good  Group: Supporter Posts: 4,735 Joined: 12-February 04 From: Santa Destroy, Utah!...bawk bawk. Member No.: 4,199 Faction: Lesbian Ninja |
Totally called Motormaster!
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Jan 19 2011, 04:48 PM
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 What's that over there!? Group: Citizen Posts: 658 Joined: 6-September 07 From: Fighting Evil by Moonlight Member No.: 10,829 Faction: Cannonball's Pirate Crew |
Hmm I guess that looks a bit like Motormaster's toy head. But how many people remember the toy head? We all remember the bucket head in a frame from the cartoon. Oh well new heads are still fun, and should have been a predictable surprise at this point.
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Jan 19 2011, 04:48 PM
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 You humans are so weird. Group: Supporter Posts: 14,789 Joined: 30-March 04 From: 123 Carenden Road Member No.: 4,369 Faction: Cannonball's Pirate Crew |
Motormaster? That's just crazy enough to work!
He's even got a sword just like Motormaster does. -------------------- QUOTE You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....  |
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Jan 19 2011, 04:49 PM
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 The original darkstream since 2003! Group: Supporter Posts: 19,628 Joined: 18-October 03 From: Aka K.I.R.A. Member No.: 3,718 Faction: Minicon |
if its MM, blud and i called it in private.....
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Jan 19 2011, 04:54 PM
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 Yep. Group: Retired Staff Posts: 23,393 Joined: 23-December 01 From: Columbus, IN Member No.: 110 Faction: Free Agent |
Yeah, I thought Motormaster made sense all along since he's somewhat established as a sword-using character. I'd usually be okay with using a more toy-accurate head, but not so much when his "bucket in a box" animation head is a bit more memorable, and you're doing a vaguely Prime-like head remold on a toy that was already a Prime.
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Jan 19 2011, 04:58 PM
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It was catastro-, catastro-feeling good Group: Supporter Posts: 4,735 Joined: 12-February 04 From: Santa Destroy, Utah!...bawk bawk. Member No.: 4,199 Faction: Lesbian Ninja |
QUOTE(J Gargoyle220 @ Jan 19 2011, 02:54 PM)  Yeah, I thought Motormaster made sense all along since he's somewhat established as a sword-using character. I'd usually be okay with using a more toy-accurate head, but not so much when his "bucket in a box" animation head is a bit more memorable, and you're doing a vaguely Prime-like head remold on a toy that was already a Prime. That leaves MM open to be repainted as a store or convention exclusive Ultra Magnus. -------------------- Reclaim the suffix. |
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Jan 19 2011, 04:59 PM
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 The artist formerly known as Hornet Group: Citizen Posts: 10,229 Joined: 9-February 04 From: New Gaia Member No.: 4,189 Faction: Free Agent |
After checking TFU.info, I can see why they went with the toy head. The animation model's head is way too plain looking for a modern TF toy, and duplicating the head-in-a-box appearance wouldn't have been possible with this toy.
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Jan 19 2011, 05:00 PM
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.... Well, FunPub. Ball's in your court to give me a new Scourge.
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Jan 19 2011, 05:01 PM
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 that is not dead which can eternal lie Group: Citizen Posts: 7,391 Joined: 19-December 01 From: Apple Valley, MN Member No.: 30 |
Chinstrap? Or frowny face?
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Jan 19 2011, 05:02 PM
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That second frame depicts an old man frowny face on him. I wonder if it's a new character... Crankimus Maximus?
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Jan 19 2011, 05:04 PM
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 More than a little ridiculous! Group: Supporter Posts: 6,664 Joined: 29-November 08 Member No.: 12,138 Faction: Cannonball's Pirate Crew |
...that's not Neme-Scourge....
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Jan 19 2011, 05:05 PM
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 The Intellectual Savior of the Masses Group: Citizen Posts: 18,242 Joined: 24-August 02 Member No.: 1,385 Faction: Lesbian Ninja |
The head reminds me of either Longrack or interestingly, Cybertron Menasor.
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Jan 19 2011, 05:06 PM
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 Hawksaur Group: Supporter Posts: 7,944 Joined: 10-December 04 Member No.: 5,603 |
Nemesis Scourge wouldn't need a new head for obvious reasons, I'd think. I wouldn't say its safe to rule him out as a repaint.
I can deal with motormaster. Drag Strip will have company now. This post has been edited by NICKSTART: Jan 19 2011, 05:06 PM --------------------  |
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Jan 19 2011, 05:07 PM
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Yep. Group: Retired Staff Posts: 23,393 Joined: 23-December 01 From: Columbus, IN Member No.: 110 Faction: Free Agent |
QUOTE(Hand Laser Corg @ Jan 19 2011, 09:58 PM) That leaves MM open to be repainted as a store or convention exclusive Ultra Magnus. Because they... couldn't before? Laser Ultra Magnus was a direct redeco of Laser Prime, unless you mean you'd want them to go with a head without a faceplate to resemble Magnus' more iconic face more. Scourge was also a direct redeco, so I'm not sure why that should come up in this discussion either... QUOTE(Hornet @ Jan 19 2011, 09:59 PM) After checking TFU.info, I can see why they went with the toy head. The animation model's head is way too plain looking for a modern TF toy, and duplicating the head-in-a-box appearance wouldn't have been possible with this toy. Eh, I can see where you'd need a very specific transformation scheme to use the "box" thing, but they probably could have come up with some kind of a bucket head that wasn't too much like Megatron. These guys make heads all the time. Either way, hopefully the final head will be nice and distinct. This post has been edited by J Gargoyle220: Jan 19 2011, 05:07 PM -------------------- "Wise men profit more from fools than fools from wise men; for the wise men shun the mistakes of fools, but fools do not imitate the successes of the wise." - Cato the Elder "Majority rule only works if you're also considering individual rights. Because you can't have five wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for supper." - Larry Flynt |
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Jan 19 2011, 05:12 PM
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 Problematic. Group: Citizen Posts: 7,743 Joined: 13-January 02 Member No.: 315 |
QUOTE(SpinOut! @ Jan 19 2011, 05:00 PM) .... Well, FunPub. Ball's in your court to give me a new Scourge. Wouldn't Motormaster be close enough already, color-wise? -------------------- Being part of any fandom is fundamentally embarassing.
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Jan 19 2011, 05:13 PM
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 Gattai! Lio Kaiser! Group: Retired Staff Posts: 4,069 Joined: 19-December 01 From: Salisbury, MD Member No.: 29 |
Motormaster/Motor Master would work! It kind of explains why PCC Huffer's repaint was named Crank Case instead of Motor Master or even Menasor if they plan on using either name for this recolor, especially since PCC Crank Case's super-mode head is a dead-ringer for Menasor, and he turns into a truck!
Looking forward to seeing this recolor show up at Toy Fair, I hope! -Lio Kaiser. --------------------  |
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Jan 19 2011, 05:25 PM
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Yep. Group: Retired Staff Posts: 23,393 Joined: 23-December 01 From: Columbus, IN Member No.: 110 Faction: Free Agent |
QUOTE(Sprocket @ Jan 19 2011, 10:12 PM) QUOTE(SpinOut! @ Jan 19 2011, 05:00 PM) .... Well, FunPub. Ball's in your court to give me a new Scourge. Wouldn't Motormaster be close enough already, color-wise? I can see making the argument that they'd be a little too similar to justify getting both characters out of the mold, but saying they're close enough to be each other on some level is more of a stretch. Depending on how the mold can be laid out, and how the highlight colors and details are used, they could be very different even though black and gray are main colors on both. This post has been edited by J Gargoyle220: Jan 19 2011, 05:26 PM -------------------- "Wise men profit more from fools than fools from wise men; for the wise men shun the mistakes of fools, but fools do not imitate the successes of the wise." - Cato the Elder "Majority rule only works if you're also considering individual rights. Because you can't have five wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for supper." - Larry Flynt |
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Jan 19 2011, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(Sprocket @ Jan 19 2011, 10:12 PM) QUOTE(SpinOut! @ Jan 19 2011, 05:00 PM) .... Well, FunPub. Ball's in your court to give me a new Scourge. Wouldn't Motormaster be close enough already, color-wise? That's like saying "Wouldn't Camshaft be close enough to be Bluestreak", or some other silver car. --------------------  |
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