Mass Effect 3 Thread, Spoilers Abound! ALL OF THE GAME SPOILED WITHIN! Options

[Telly]

does anyone know if hopping into the shower with traynor kills the liara relationship? i assumed since she wasnt a squad member itd be ok, but afte ri did it i got the paramour achievement

[Yertle]

So I just beat the game, and my ending was interesting, I can say that much. This had been with playing none of the Multiplayer yet. I plan on messing with it now to up my galactic readiness to try to get some of the other ones. It would have been nice if I we could have made a separate save during the endgame to ease choice of endings though...

Damn that recurring kid image is annoying

[Maxx Blast]

The kid parts are stupid.

Bioware topped Jacob with Vega as the worst character in the series.

Also, Mordin dying hit me in the place which feels.

[Esser-Z]

I like both the kid parts and Vega.

[Rust]

Oh wow, I don't know what game the story haters were playing, but it sure wasn't this one.

Moridin's death was heartbreaking, but dying to cure the Genophage was heartwarming as well. That subplot at least got all the resolution I could have hoped for.

Not to mention Reaper vs Thresher Maw!

The Rachni bit I already knew about, which irked me immensely, but there really wasn't any choice there. I never cared for Grunt, so I let the Queen go, and hey...Grunt lived anyway.

I think the bits with Thane honestly have the most emotional impact with me, as my father is slowly being devoured by Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma. Thane's attitudes at the end of his life mirror my dad's, so obviously I can sympathize and relate quite a bit, which is surprising since I never really cared for Thane one way or the other in ME2. He also has one of the best lines in the game: "My favorite Doctor was the one who told me I had three months to live...nine months ago."

And yeah, I have to admit Vega is a real pointless addition to the cast at this late a date, especially with all the alumni to draw upon. Once I got access to more then two squad members, I banished Vega to the Normandy and haven't bothered with him since. Heck, I have to force myself to go talk to him. It's not really the fault of his character either, it's just Garrus, EDI, and Liara have more history with Shepard and make more sense in the battle to save the Universe.

His Frag Grenades *are* useful to take down Brutes, though.

[Esser-Z]

I like Vega, but yeah, he's kinda... pointless

Thane's death actually had me tearing up. It was incredibly well done. Mordin's hit me hard, too, and his story arc rocked. Reaper vs Maw was awesome. I'm with Joker--we need to build a gun that fires Thresher Maws.

Grunt was so badass at the end of that mission. I was sure he was going to die... and he pulled through.

This post has been edited by Esser-Z: Mar 9 2012, 08:15 PM

[Nyarlathotep]

Huh.

So did you guys pick up that story-related DLC?

This will be interesting!

[Esser-Z]

I bought the Collector's Edition, so yeah.

[JRSBill]

Have only played up to where Mordin dies saving the Krogen race. Very heartbreaking yet necessary. He split time with Garrius and Grunt on ME2 and was looking forward to having him around again.

The alliance with the Krogen is needed more than 1 scientist no matter how smart he is, "The good of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one"........

I keep getting this feeling that somehow Admiral Hackett is dirty goods and can't shake the feeling. I hope I turn out to be wrong.

[Rust]

The one aspect of the game I don't care for storywise is the forcing of Udina to become Councilor. All I can say is if the game had swapped Udina and Anderson's roles depending on who you picked, the attack on the Citadel would have been that much more devastating. Forced to have to shoot Anderson...

As it was, I really couldn't tap that Right Trigger fast enough.

[DemiSetz X]

As it was, I really couldn't tap that Right Trigger fast enough.

Nor could I... In fact, of all the choices I've had to make so far, it was the only one I put no thought into. I've wanted to do that since the first game.

The Rachni queen I debated, because I had heard Grunt died if you saved her, but in the end, I still chose to save her, and came out with a still living pissed off Krogan and a bad ass bug army.

Balak's role was interesting, glad I saved him... In fact, so far I'm glad I saved everyone, it's been one hell of a ride so far. All the loose ends getting tied up, even if it's not nice and tidy, it still brings the story some closure.

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Conrad Verner taking a "bullet" for Shepard was kind of cool, and it finally gave him a chance to be a hero. Just hoping it doesn't go to his head.

I considered telling Ash not to bother coming aboard, honestly I probably will never use her, my squad has been Garrus and Javik for 90% of the game, occasionally I'll bring EDI along, but it never hurts to have another soldier.

Speaking of Javik, I'm loving the character and his interactions with the others, especially Liara. Not to mention his OCD to keep washing his hands.

[Esser-Z]

The one aspect of the game I don't care for storywise is the forcing of Udina to become Councilor. All I can say is if the game had swapped Udina and Anderson's roles depending on who you picked, the attack on the Citadel would have been that much more devastating. Forced to have to shoot Anderson...

As it was, I really couldn't tap that Right Trigger fast enough.

Anderson would never side with Cerberus, man.

[Esser-Z]

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Wow. That was an incredible ride. In the end, I chose Control. There is absolutely nothing to contradict my idea that Shepard has now ascended. In fact, it seems to be implied--after all, if she's gone, who's controlling them?

She has the Reapers and their tech. She can rebuild the relays, find the Normandy (it still has a QEC, after all), build herself a new body. Shepard is the galaxy's protector. I'm satisfied.

Even before Shepard rebuilds the Relays, galactic civilization can exist. I'll just have much longer travel times, like the Honorverse and similar settings!

Shepard can link to the Normandy via the QEC. Between EDI and her new databases and processing power, she can figure out where they are and send a Reaper for pickup. The Reapers--or their creators--built the relays once. They can do it again. It'll take some time, the network expanding slowly at first but then faster as relays are constructed. Shepard will build herself a new (mostly) organic platform and go off and have those little blue children. It all works.


This post has been edited by Esser-Z: Mar 10 2012, 12:13 PM

[Rust]

Anderson would never side with Cerberus, man.

Willingly, no.

But as was pointed out in the game, whose to say Udina wasn't Indoctrinated?

[Esser-Z]

Huh. Don't recall that being suggested. Could be.

[Rust]

I think it was Ashley who remarked about Udina possibly being Indoctrinated. But you might only get the dialogue if you don't shoot the weasel yourself (I reloaded and didn't shoot him to see whether or not you can take him alive. Nope. Ash just put one in his chest).

This post has been edited by Rust: Mar 10 2012, 06:32 PM

[Nyarlathotep]

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Wow. That was an incredible ride. In the end, I chose Control. There is absolutely nothing to contradict my idea that Shepard has now ascended. In fact, it seems to be implied--after all, if she's gone, who's controlling them?

She has the Reapers and their tech. She can rebuild the relays, find the Normandy (it still has a QEC, after all), build herself a new body. Shepard is the galaxy's protector. I'm satisfied.

Even before Shepard rebuilds the Relays, galactic civilization can exist. I'll just have much longer travel times, like the Honorverse and similar settings!

Shepard can link to the Normandy via the QEC. Between EDI and her new databases and processing power, she can figure out where they are and send a Reaper for pickup. The Reapers--or their creators--built the relays once. They can do it again. It'll take some time, the network expanding slowly at first but then faster as relays are constructed. Shepard will build herself a new (mostly) organic platform and go off and have those little blue children. It all works.

Sounds like you had to jump through some mental hoops to justify that.

[Rust]

So I tried Multiplayer.

I kind of liked it?

There's nothing much too it, and generally I've just be slumming around as a Soldier. It's okay for what it is, but it's nothing absolutely amazing.

[Esser-Z]

HIGHLIGHT to view:
Wow. That was an incredible ride. In the end, I chose Control. There is absolutely nothing to contradict my idea that Shepard has now ascended. In fact, it seems to be implied--after all, if she's gone, who's controlling them?

She has the Reapers and their tech. She can rebuild the relays, find the Normandy (it still has a QEC, after all), build herself a new body. Shepard is the galaxy's protector. I'm satisfied.

Even before Shepard rebuilds the Relays, galactic civilization can exist. I'll just have much longer travel times, like the Honorverse and similar settings!

Shepard can link to the Normandy via the QEC. Between EDI and her new databases and processing power, she can figure out where they are and send a Reaper for pickup. The Reapers--or their creators--built the relays once. They can do it again. It'll take some time, the network expanding slowly at first but then faster as relays are constructed. Shepard will build herself a new (mostly) organic platform and go off and have those little blue children. It all works.

Sounds like you had to jump through some mental hoops to justify that.

No hoops whatsoever. It's a direct extrapolation.

[Total Biscuit]

HIGHLIGHT to view:
Wow. That was an incredible ride. In the end, I chose Control. There is absolutely nothing to contradict my idea that Shepard has now ascended. In fact, it seems to be implied--after all, if she's gone, who's controlling them?

She has the Reapers and their tech. She can rebuild the relays, find the Normandy (it still has a QEC, after all), build herself a new body. Shepard is the galaxy's protector. I'm satisfied.

Even before Shepard rebuilds the Relays, galactic civilization can exist. I'll just have much longer travel times, like the Honorverse and similar settings!

Shepard can link to the Normandy via the QEC. Between EDI and her new databases and processing power, she can figure out where they are and send a Reaper for pickup. The Reapers--or their creators--built the relays once. They can do it again. It'll take some time, the network expanding slowly at first but then faster as relays are constructed. Shepard will build herself a new (mostly) organic platform and go off and have those little blue children. It all works.

Sounds like you had to jump through some mental hoops to justify that.

No hoops whatsoever. It's a direct extrapolation.

Except for the Catalyst explicitly stating Shepard will die, and lose everything they were. Shepard's not simply swapping one body for another enormous one. They're killed but they managed to reprogram the Catalysts prime directives with blue space magic in doing so.

And the most direct extrapolation is that the Normandy crew never get rescued and that the old man and the child at the end are their descendants, if you actually just go with the stuff we're shown, what little there is. It's not clear because Bioware used an old screensaver for the final image, rather than actually rendering a proper image. You can extrapolate that that's a different world if you like, but that makes the ending about 2 random people with no relation to the plot whatsoever, which I admit is kinda consistent with the rest of the endings, but not the most obvious explanation.

There's nothing wrong with headcanon, most people are turning to it to cope with how appallingly badly written these endings are, but you're just deluding yourself if you think that's what was intended, or that there's anything in game to back up your imagination. Shepard dies in all but one ending, and the Normandy crew gets stuck on Gilligans planet after flying through the plot holes, that's all, there's no coming back from it.

Just because you can think of a better ending than Mac Walters doesn't make it real, sadly.